Radiant Silvergun in an upcoming MAME.

PS - I agree on all points.

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Originally Posted by Changeling

Is this game better than Ikaruga? If so, why. I got the system to run it, but I don't think 102 mame runs it yet, just the beginning

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It's different than Ikaruga. I personally like Ikaruga better, because of it's stronger level design (Radian is almost all boss fights, like Alien Soldier), shorter length, and better pacing, but Radiant is no slouch in terms of level design, and its system is much, much more flexible, which a lot of people enjoy. There's more variety of ways to handle different situations.

They're both really fantastic executions of a great idea, and while the fact that one is a sequel is still apparent, it's best just to treat them as seperate entitites.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

It's different than Ikaruga. I personally like Ikaruga better, because of it's stronger level design (Radian is almost all boss fights, like Alien Soldier), shorter length, and better pacing, but Radiant is no slouch in terms of level design, and its system is much, much more flexible, which a lot of people enjoy. There's more variety of ways to handle different situations.

They're both really fantastic executions of a great idea, and while the fact that one is a sequel is still apparent, it's best just to treat them as seperate entitites.

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I'm gonna have to dissagree with you here. RS is NOT mostly boss fights. There are a lot of them, but stages have lots of normal shmupness too. Alien Soldier is like 5 seconds of a stage, then boss fight. RS isn't like that at all.

Anyway, I like Soukyugurentai maybe just a tiny bit more than Silvergun.

Yeah, I was exaggerating a bit, but when you compare the amount of boss fighting in RS to Ikaruga, I think my point still stand.

I still don't get the fuss about Soukyugurentai, but I like Dodonpachi more thain either of them

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Yeah, I was exaggerating a bit, but when you compare the amount of boss fighting in RS to Ikaruga, I think my point still stand.

I still don't get the fuss about Soukyugurentai, but I like Dodonpachi more thain either of them

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I'm not sure why I like it either. I just know that I have a lot of fun playing it. I never played the Donpachi games, I need to track them down; or at least Dodonpachi.

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it actually feels like they spent some time on it rather than busting out a 5 or 6 level breeze thru of a shooter like every other shooter made in the past 20 years.

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I really love me some Silvergun but come on..

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Originally Posted by Destro777

Yea I think its better than Ikaruga, Dodonpachi, gradius v and all the others - because those games follow the same old 'Level, Boss, end of level 1. Level, Boss, end of level 2.' formula.

RS feels totally different - the game is three times as long as any shooter - maybe even longer if you draw out the bosses. There is no set formula - the level design changes often mid stage - bosses pop up left and right (and im not talking some wimpy short mini boss fights either - each boss is tough and lengthy - and each one is different). So RS's formula is more like Level. boss, boss, boss, more level, boss, even more level, end boss, end of level.

As soon as i fought the first 3 bosses - All within 15 minutes of playtime, all totally different bullet patterns which change frequently (no 2 pattern and its memorized bosses here), all took a considerable amount of time to kill, all with different ways to fight and win against them (due to being able to destory them piece by piece - which is optional i might add) - All which didnt feel cheap in the slightest - And all this happened just about HALFWAY thru the first level. Right then, I knew this game kicked serious ass. Now times that by like the 50 other bosses and you're good to go.

Its way way more epic than other shooters - and it actually feels like they spent some time on it rather than busting out a 5 or 6 level breeze thru of a shooter like every other shooter made in the past 20 years. Now I love me a traditional shooter - I could play Battle Garregga all day, but to me, Radiant Silvergun is the next evolution of shooters. I really hope treasure goes back to that formula on their next one.

PS: I love Radiant Silvergun.

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Thanks for the impressions, Destro. Now Should I just be happy to play it on Mame or does the Saturn version do something special like sing you a song or something that the arcade version doesn't. Keep in mind that I don't have a Saturn and I don't usually Ebay for games. I don't think that this or any game is worth the 150 + dollars that people charge for it. I wish Treasure would just rerelease this damn game already so I could buy it.

I'd still put RS in my top 5 favorite games ever. It will forever remain the best game released on a SEGA console.

I paid somewhere in the neighboorhood of $100 for my copy and have gotten well more than $100 worth of enjoyment out of it.

I love the weapon vareity (6 different attacks plus a sword wtf)

The music is fantastic.

I'd suggest getting a modchip and downloading the game though. I certainly would if I could do it over again... its not like Treasure is getting the money for sales of the game.

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Originally Posted by Josh

The music is fantastic.

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The one thing I hate about RS! lol

Just sucks so bad. I never undestood the love for the shit music in RS.