Ghouls 'N Ghosts (Daimakaimura only) comparison videos

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Originally Posted by Kev

You have any videos of the X68000 version of Daimakaimura, supergrafxengine?

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I don't right now, sorry. I lost everything on my HDD a few weeks ago :( so I no longer have the X68K emu setup. maybe sometime i will d/l it again and make videos of the near-exact port of X68000 Daimakaimura.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

wow, the genesis version looks much worse than I remember. I rembembered it beign vaguely close to the arcade, but it doesn't even look like the same game.

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first time I saw the arcade game, which was after I bought the Genesis version, i was SHOCKED to see how much better it was.


before I played either version, I read how great it was in EGM

EGM praised Genesis Ghouls 'n Ghosts very highly, telling us it was a
'virtual carbon-copy' of the coin-op:

EGM #3, Aug-Sept 1989, with the hilarious Ironsword - Fabio cover:
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8785/egm34ah.jpg
page 66:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6...boncopy7fb.jpg

EGM stretched the truth quite a bit here, although they did not give us an absolute falsehood, a total baldfaced lie, as Computer & Video Games did..... from some issue (dont know which) of Computer And Video Games magazine:

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8517/gng5bf.jpg

yeah.....right


Arcade Ghouls 'n Ghosts
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6296/arcgngbh5.png

Megadrive~Genesis Ghouls 'n Ghosts
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9020/gengngwx9.png

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformation...7-minister.jpg
"THERE ARE NO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEGADRIVE AND ARCADE GHOULS 'N GHOSTS"
THE MEGADRIVE VERSION IS A PIXEL-FOR-PIXEL COPY"





:p

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Originally Posted by kedawa

And all this time I thought the Genesis version was pretty. :(

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Now looking at it is almost like looking at the SMS version as far as I'm concerned- yech. CPS is what Genesisn't. Neither cartridge version is even close to the 32 Megabit PCB graphically, but at least the Genny one nails the music reasonably well.

The gameplay is all there, but it's hard to go back to the 16-bit one when the Saturn version is right there on my shelf. It's a shame we didn't have the X68000 officially released in the states. That system was very expensive at the time, but GNG for X68000 is yet another arcade perfect port AFAIR.

Saturn + Capcom Gen. 2 = GnG bliss.

About 5 years ago I finally got CG2 for the Saturn. I was floored by how better looking the arcade game was when compared to the Genesis.

The music is much more orchestrated and sounds comes across as far superior to the Genesis game.

Any fan of this game, or series should really play the arcade version and see it for themselves.

The difficulity is also higher (in particular the boss battles), giving you a better challenge than the walk in the park that GnG is on the Genesis.

It had been over 10 years since I had played GnG in the arcade, and I didn't play it much at the arcade.

**The Capcoms Classic game is not even woth playing IMO, as the controller seems rather incompatible for 2D games, in particular the directional on the controller S is very stiff, and difficult to use in comparison with the Saturn or Genesis controller. Maybe it takes some getting used to, but I wasn't going to bother as I'd rather just play it on my Saturn.

**Interesting to see what EGM had to say about GnG, they got carried away in their comparison quite a bit, as the Genesis GNG game was the best looking console game to date in late 1989 when it debuted but fell nothing of the quality of the superior aracade version.

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Originally Posted by gameoverDude

Now looking at it is almost like looking at the SMS version as far as I'm concerned- yech. CPS is what Genesisn't. Neither cartridge version is even close to the 32 Megabit PCB graphically, but at least the Genny one nails the music reasonably well.

The gameplay is all there, but it's hard to go back to the 16-bit one when the Saturn version is right there on my shelf. It's a shame we didn't have the X68000 officially released in the states. That system was very expensive at the time, but GNG for X68000 is yet another arcade perfect port AFAIR.

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ahh the X68000 version is incredible, and incredibly close to the arcade....but not quite..... 'arcade perfect'.......
no such thing as arcade perfect ghouls 'n ghosts at home. see this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOAi3...h=feet%20grass

:D

yes, the X68000 port is the closest version you can get at home, outside of an emulator running the arcade rom. the X68000 version is, from what I can tell, closer to the arcade coin-op machine/PCB than the Saturn, Playstation, Xbox or Playstation2 versions. but teh X68000 version does not have teh 'grass-effect' that obscures Arthurs feet/legs. no home version does :p

I played the ever living shit out of the genesis version back in the day, by far one of my favorite games on the genesis

I had no idea back then how bad it looked in comparison

still a damn good looking game for the genny though

I got the Saturn Collection not that long ago but havent really had a chance to sit down with it looks like I need to

I cant remmeber but was super ghost and gouls a diffrent game by itself. i thought i use to be awesome...

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Originally Posted by maruchan

I cant remmeber but was super ghost and gouls a diffrent game by itself. i thought i use to be awesome...

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Yes, a completely separate game that never had an aracade version, unlike Ghosts' N Goblins & Ghouls' N Ghosts.

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Originally Posted by maruchan

I cant remmeber but was super ghost and gouls a diffrent game by itself. i thought i use to be awesome...

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yes, Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts (Chomakaimura or Choumakaimura) is a completely different game. although it is part of the series. it's the sequel to Daimakaimura ~ Ghouls N Ghosts. I love it for what it is. it did not have a direct arcade parent to live upto, although I do think the very different Daimakaimura arcade is superior overall to Super Ghouls. in Super Ghouls, you cannot attack up-down, which is a step back. however the double jump is very cool and helps the gameplay. the slow pace of the game is something i did not care for though, after the relatively lightning fast gameplay of Daimakaimura.

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Originally Posted by warnpro

Saturn + Capcom Gen. 2 = GnG bliss.

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indeed it is. we get a 98% exact port of Daimakaimura
(no, it's not 100% exact but its very good, and still arcade-quality)

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About 5 years ago I finally got CG2 for the Saturn. I was floored by how better looking the arcade game was when compared to the Genesis.

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same with me, when i saw the real arcade game at Six Flags in summer 1990, a few months after buying the 'virtual carbon-copy' Genesis version, i was awe-struck :D

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The music is much more orchestrated and sounds comes across as far superior to the Genesis game.

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I agree it is more orchestrated, and although technically superior to the Genesis version's music (i wont argue against facts) i actually prefer the way the Genesis music sounds.

there is one massive problem with the music in Saturn and Playstation Daimakaimura, which i assume was also carried over to the Capcom Classics Collection on PS2-Xbox since the Playstation CG2 version was used for CCC.... that is, the ending music right after you defeat Lucifer is botched. it sounds nothing like the arcade game or even the Genesis version. the ending music that is there is not even playable in the sound test (which goes upto track 25)... the proper ending music is track 26 on Genesis and I think track 19 in the arcade... anyway, they screwed it up. so CG2/CCC is not perfect even though its still awesome.

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Any fan of this game, or series should really play the arcade version and see it for themselves.

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very much agreed!

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The difficulity is also higher (in particular the boss battles), giving you a better challenge than the walk in the park that GnG is on the Genesis.

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absolutely true, yeah.

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It had been over 10 years since I had played GnG in the arcade, and I didn't play it much at the arcade.

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I only got to play the real actual arcade machine that one time in summer 1990, will never forget the shock I got when I saw it destroys the Genesis version.

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**The Capcoms Classic game is not even woth playing IMO, as the controller seems rather incompatible for 2D games, in particular the directional on the controller S is very stiff, and difficult to use in comparison with the Saturn or Genesis controller. Maybe it takes some getting used to, but I wasn't going to bother as I'd rather just play it on my Saturn.

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I have the Xbox version. it's based on the Playstation Capcom Generation 2 as i said. same problem with the distant parallax background exists. they're the same as the arcade, no downgrade (like SuperGrafx or Genesis) but they're way too dark to see properly without turning up the brightness on your screen. the Xbox controller is not the best way to play it. It is STILL arcade-quality just not arcade perfect.

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**Interesting to see what EGM had to say about GnG, they got carried away in their comparison quite a bit, as the Genesis GNG game was the best looking console game to date in late 1989 when it debuted but fell nothing of the quality of the superior aracade version.

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definitally agree there. at least EGM didn't say 'arcade perfect' back in those days (i think GameFan coined that awful phrase)......... EGM never actually said either Genesis or SuperGrafx versions were identical to the arcade, but they got close to saying it.


here are five EGM mini-articles from 1990 on SuperGrafx Ghouls 'N Ghosts:

EGM #10, May 1990
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9...ypecrop4kn.jpg


EGM #11, June 1990
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/460...oyscrop4hi.jpg
(note that 'The Mountain King' is Granzort)


EGM #13, August 1990
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1...reecrop6gh.jpg



EGM #14, Sept 1990
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2...letter1pu5.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7...280x600fo5.jpg

EGM #14, Sept 1990
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3...345x960py7.jpg


EGM #15, October 1990
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/9...xreview8xz.jpg

supergrafxengine-

Thanks for posting the EGM stuff, makes me wish I kept my EGM's from way back then.

I vaguely remember that "EGM rates the Systems" article, although I guess they did that type of thing frequently. Dayum, I'm getting old.

OH ya, on those videos, is that you, or did you get that elsewhere?

I made ALL of those videos :D

some are from a 3.1 megapixel digital camera (not direct capture) others are direct capture ( i had to learn how to do this the other day, im not even an amature) and those lack sound.

I'm happy to provide those EGM clips for you guys to look at. I only wish my collection of EGM and other magazines was even something close to being more complete.

hey, I would very much like to see any Japanese magazine articles from 1989-1990 on Daimakaimura / Ghouls 'n Ghosts for the MegaDrive and the SuperGrafx. from what someone on another board told me:

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I'd like to say that the PCE mags of that time didn't do the same thing. At least they compared the arcade, MD, and SGX versions w/pix on the same page rather than just saying "perfect" or "kills the MD ver". Not to say that they weren't biased, but at least they compared a few shots and explained the differences in terms of the console's capabilities. I'll have to look for that article and post it.

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I'd like to see what he is talking about!