Super Mario Galaxy

Sunshine has much more in terms of true platforming that Mario 64 -- that's why I prefer it.

Sunshine was pure ass water. If Nintendo did not release it as a Mario game it would've been forgotten like any other third rate platformer, instead we're talking about it 4 years later.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Expectations. Sunshine was a fun game that would have been adored by many had it not been a Mario game. However, given its pedigree, it had to live up to Mario 64, which it failed to do.

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I loved Mario Sunshine, but I agree with the Yoshe.

Sunshine was a fun game, it just didn't hold up to the other Mario games. I'll admit the further I got into Sunshine the more I liked it, but the overall game felt like it was just missing something. Mario 64 was just so fresh and original that Sunshine just had too much to live up to IMO. Still a good game though

I'm a bit sad to hear that the wiimote feels tacked on at this point. As long as it doesn't hurt the game I guess it doesn't matter too much though...

It's been pretty accepted since it came out that if Sunshine just had the void levels without the water pack and nothing else, it would have been fantastic. Since that's what Galaxy looks like, I'm interested.

I'm worried about the "Mario in space" factor, but other than that it looks decent.

Too soon.

Super Mario 3 > Super Mario World > Sunshine > SMB 1 > SMB 2

I know nothing of japanese SMB2 and I have venom towards SM64, so I won't rank them.

But the point is Sunshine was fantastic. I don't know what the heck you guys wanted out of it, but it hit all the marks.

As for Galaxy, looks f'n AWESOME.

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Originally Posted by PBMax

I've seen videos of the octopus and robot bosses. The robot was just awesome.

Anyone know where to dl a video of the spider boss?

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=mVaaqshiT...mario%20galaxy

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Originally Posted by sethsez

It's been pretty accepted since it came out that if Sunshine just had the void levels without the water pack and nothing else, it would have been fantastic.

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I still don't see why those void levels are so praised. I found the camera and ability to judge distance really frustrating in those parts.

Anyway, I'm really excited about Galaxy, especially after Frog's impressions since he had the same issues I had with Sunshine.

Froggy speaks the truth, I got to play it too. After about a minute I was just controlling Mario, not thinking about how I did it, and the Wii remote add-ons were effortless to use. The small planets made for some tight areas to play in, with no waste space, and the fun they're having with gravity gives this game its hook more than the Wii remote does. I'd recommend some serious optimism here.

James