The great wall of Mexico.

I'd prefer to see two walls within the US: one north of New York to keep New Englanders away from the people who matter and one east of California for the same reason.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I'd prefer to see two walls within the US: one north of New York to keep New Englanders away from the people who matter and one east of California for the same reason.

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LOL.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

I challenge everyone whose against the national anthem in Spanish to sing the English version without looking up the words.

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The English version doesn't have the lyrics, "Ella le gusta la gasolina (dame mas gasolina!)" and that's all that matters.

Oh yeah, and Connecticut is better than every other state in the Union. Bite it, Yoshi.

Guns are not illegal here, only automatics and some semi-automatics. I surely hope you aren't trying to make fun of Australia because we don't have an out of control gun culture like you guys do.

And Martin Briant killed around 40 people over 3 days iirc. It was really fucked up, with live coverage and shit.

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Originally Posted by arjue

Guns are not illegal here, only automatics and some semi-automatics. I surely hope you aren't trying to make fun of Australia because we don't have an out of control gun culture like you guys do.

And Martin Briant killed around 40 people over 3 days iirc. It was really fucked up, with live coverage and shit.

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I forget who said it, but our country was founded on those principles.

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The English version doesn't have the lyrics, "Ella le gusta la gasolina (dame mas gasolina!)"

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This is all I needed to read to find out you're full of shit.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

How much taxes do you think a guy who makes less than $5 an hour pays?

About $0. Sup EITC.

Except for, of course, sales taxes and other regressive taxes and the like. Which they do pay. And those taxes are local, and neocons always whine about them taking advantage of local services, so, well, even you could put 2 and 2 together.

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Maybe if they came legally they could go to the union and fight for themselves

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As for the "they are ILLEGAL immigrants... its a CRIME... because theyre ILLEGAL immigrants"... well I brought that up in the other thread. I believe my words were, "what is legal? Whatever the government says it is. Alberto Gonzales wants to throw people in jail for a decade for downloading a music CD".

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SO becuase a law is unfair it should be ignored? If so then how come I can't post links to torrents on TNL?

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Cause it's an election year, and they need to hold off on gay marriage and flag burning until later in the summer?

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Becuase an issue brought up in an election year is pointless.

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That's a moronic comparison. My point is that if you don't care enough to learn the words to the anthem in your own language, why does it suddenly bother you if someone else is singing it in theirs? In other words, why does the anthem only become important to you when it's being sung in a language other than English? I find it ridiculous.

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What's wrong with having national pride? When did it become wrong to want your stuff kept in it's original form.

Should we make a spanish version of the consitution?

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I surely hope you aren't trying to make fun of Australia because we don't have an out of control gun culture like you guys do.

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The only reason to make fun of Australia is your fucking insane government, that makes ours look relaxed, which is funny considering I heard everyone in Canberra is stoned 24/7.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

BTW ... I am against this wall idea. At this point there is no easy solution; either way you go about this issue ... USA loses. If you deport all illegals we lose the common blue collar worker. If you let them stay our economy suffers. No matter what they do or we talk about. The American people lose.

I realized this after the HR thread. I sat back and thought about what everyone was saying. And thats what I realized. This issue is a gray area. No matter what you do someone is BOUND to be hurt by the decision.

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Basically, what I meant in that post Av ... is that the solutions being brought up by Congress, TNL, and USA. None are compromises to the problem. Its either deport or stay. I say let the people that are here for 20 years stay. Let the ones here that are more recent stay as well, but make them go through the proper process. And make the process easier on all.