You mean Andrew is not tough, but he's watched MMA for 9 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
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You mean Andrew is not tough, but he's watched MMA for 9 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
I think Ken Shamrock MIGHT be able to take Robobo down at this point in his career.
LAWL
The boxing versus mma guy has been done to death fo'sho, but we all like to chat on the internets no?
They are two diffierent sports, this boxing and MMA. Is there overlap? Sure.
But there is also overlap in basketball and soccer, but that doesn't make them the same sport, or make an athelete be able to transition to the other sport and play at a top competitive level.
Bottom line, a boxer, regardless of who it is, needs to be able to stop the takedown. Regardless of what people think, there is no magic "anti-grapple". They way to learn how to avoid being taken down is to learn to wrestle and grapple yourself.
It is amazingly easy to fall down in a skirmish even against someone with horrible no takedown ability, let alone when you are fighting a top ranked wrestler or someone with an amazing double or single leg.
Tyson was amazing in his prime and a ton of fun to watch. Could he be a contender with a few years of grappling and sprawl and brawl training? Sure I think so, but at that point he's no longer a boxer, he's a mixed martial artist. =D
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regarding that knockout - yea, I've seen it, straight up brutal. getting hit in the head sucks.
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And speaking of videos - here is an old video of Genki Sudo doing a little submission grappling dope stuff if you ask me, love me some flying triangles.
This vid won't be for everyone, but if you appreciate the more technical aspects of teh ground game in MMA you'll enjoy it I think.
Depending on his apptitude for wrestling I don't think it would necessarily take a few years. Cro Cop made the transition pretty damn quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
Kid,
How much of Krav Manga is based on judo?
I see many similiar takes downs and neck grabs that it appears to be a modified judo with many open hand strikes.
Tyson was a street fighter, so I am sure he is familiar with take downs and grabs.
<3 flying triangles (too bad I suck at them)
Genki is such a pimp.
Being "familiar" with takedowns because you've brawled isn't gonna help you against a D-I or better yet an olympic level wrestler, of which there are many in MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba
From what I've seen, Krav Maga is currently more just a buzzword for Reality Based Street Defense (RBSD) - which essentially amounts to fat guys who do kata and forms while wearing camoflauge pants and talking about how many knives they own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba
From what I know its an Israel martial arts system developed for their military. So it has a hodge-podge of diffirent techniques.
I've never seen a legit practioner in my experience that was worth anything, not to say they aren't out there though.
We all wrestled and punched around as kids too, that doesn't mean we have the knowledge to walk into a cage, ring, or college level wrestling mat and not get destroyed.Quote:
Tyson was a street fighter, so I am sure he is familiar with take downs and grabs.
The rolling calf slicer at 4:15 is the coolest thing ever.
Speaking of flying triangles...Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Here is a little story.
We got in this wrestling dummy last week, like this:
http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.cat...s/10979945.jpg
Anyway before I taught the kids class, I propped it up against the wall and was trying my flying armbars on it, The arms are bendable, but if you get a good enough grip you can get em to work.
I tried a couple really cautiously and they went okay. The kids saw them and were impressed, I was feeling good.
So the adult class is there later on, and they see the dummy, being known as the guy always trying crazy "flying" type stuff, someone said "hey nemo, why don't you bust out a flying armbar on that thing".
So I cockily replied, "heck, I was trying em before you guys got here with no problem!".
There were some newer people in class and I was teaching the adult class too, so I was ready to really put on a clinic before I got everyone started.
So I propped the thing up on the ball, and went to bust out the biggest, flashiest flying armbar I could on this beast...
and TOTALLY crashed my shit! Lost grip of the arm, fell on my side hard, the dummy fell on top of me.
Total and utter catastrophe. All I heard was "omg" "ouch" and "that hard to hurt".
That's my story of trying flrying armbars on the grappling dummy. :(