Third Party Politics

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Originally Posted by Diff-chan

This thread reminds me of StriderKyo's post about buttcheeks. You know, the one about not wanting to argue with the retarded kid.

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I'm not a "retarded kid." If anything, everyone involved is the "retarded kid" because many of you can't argue properly in political threads. Most of you want to "win" arguments and "own" the other guy so much that these kinds of threads are pointless here. "We" have very little interest in getting the other side to understand our POV. We systematically attack the opinions of others but rarely give an adequate fallow up that could persuade others to come over to the correct conclusions.

I don't know why, but many of you confuse politics with objective topics like science or math and assume that by debunking the thoughts of others, you're automatically the winner. This however is not the case for politics since most views are seen as subjective opinions. In politics, just because A is wrong, B, C, or D is not instantly made correct.

Simpler put, if your arguing online with a “retard” and you can’t make any headway with your point, you are probably equally retarded. It shouldn’t be hard to educate someone that obviously knows so little about a topic. If you can’t get anyone to agree with you that didn’t agree with you already, your ability to argue or your argument itself may not be as great as you personally think it is.

P.S. You’ve gotten better at this since you’ve graduated. You actually find the time to come up with links and thought out explanations. You also reframe from starting your arguments with “lol, retard.” Well most of the time.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

I don't buy this excuse. You're not proving anything to politicans by not voting except that you don't care about democracy.

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That isn't an excuse. It is how I feel about it. I did not like either candidate. I felt the entire thing was a mockery of democracy.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

You have a better one?

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uh yeah, did you miss the thing I said about how the German's get a neither vote?

We need that. It's a clear way of showing how the people feel.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Wrong, just because wackos have been the only ones to effectively organize in politics over the last twenty or so years doesn't mean they're the only ones capable of doing it.

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I did not say that they were the only ones capable. I only said that it gives those kinds of people more power because they are easily motivated when compared to normal sane people.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

If they cared enough about seeing a change they'd make the time. Though, you haphazardly bring up a good point; national election days should be official holidays and / or workers should not be able to be penalized for showing up late or leaving early in order to vote.

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It's easy for you to say that considering the career you've chosen.

But I must ask, why I have I not heard of the great Gozen foundation in the great smokeys? You know, because you are so organized and have made so much time for this.

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

Simpler put, if your arguing online with a “retard” and you can’t make any headway with your point, you are probably equally retarded. It shouldn’t be hard to educate someone that obviously knows so little about a topic. If you can’t get anyone to agree with you that didn’t agree with you already, your ability to argue or your argument itself may not be as great as you personally think it is.

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Simpler? :bang:

God damn you Microsoft Word

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

That isn't an excuse. It is how I feel about it. I did not like either candidate. I felt the entire thing was a mockery of democracy.

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Did you notice how no one argued with me after I rephrased my earlier point agreeing with you? It's because you're on the right track, but your logic is a off. I totally agree with you, but would never state it this way.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

Did you notice how no one argued with me after I rephrased my earlier point agreeing with you? It's because you're on the right track, but your logic is a off. I totally agree with you, but would never state it this way.

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You're putting too much thought into it. Gozen enjoys being a prick to me. I could say his shit smells like roses and he'd find a way to argue with me about it. By the end of the day he'd be declaring me a fool from the roof tops.

Buttcheeks is a whipping boy for Gozen and Diff.

Sorry Buttcheeks.

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

It's easy for you to say that considering the career you've chosen.

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What the fuck does my career have anything to do with this?

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

But I must ask, why I have I not heard of the great Gozen foundation in the great smokeys? You know, because you are so organized and have made so much time for this.

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Ignoring your sarcasm, I'm actually a member of the College Democrats, the League of Conservation voters, the Videogame Voters Network, and the Center for Media and Democracy. None of them are full time jobs, most of them require little more from me than writing letters to Congressman and giving donations. The one I'm most actively involved in (college democrats) meets once a week for about an hour, not exactly asking for a pound of flesh IronPlant.

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

TLDRuh yeah, did you miss the thing I said about how the German's get a neither vote?

We need that. It's a clear way of showing how the people feel.

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No, it's a stupid idea. All it says to me is that someone didn't care enough about politics until the very last minute. If you're so displeased with the candidates running you should have been active in your party's primary trying to get the guy you did support the nomination.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

The one I'm most actively involved in (college democrats) meets once a week for about an hour, not exactly asking for a pound of flesh IronPlant.

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What in the hell do you talk about?