Kerry is an idiot, Bush retorts

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

Kerry is a flip-flopping ignoramus who has/had no business being in the White House. Bush was the lesser of two evils.

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Kerry is an idiot and Bush is an idiot. Given a choice between two idiots, I'd rather have one that congress will keep in check versus one congress will not keep in check.

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Originally Posted by sethsez

There's really no basis for either explanation beyond how much we trust whoever's making the claim, but given his history with the military I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here, even if I really don't like the man.

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Which history? The fabricated history? Or the truth? Give me a break Kerry is the liberal version of Bush, both are lying douchebags.

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Originally Posted by sethsez

Kerry is an idiot and Bush is an idiot. Given a choice between two idiots, I'd rather have one that congress will keep in check versus one congress will not keep in check.

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Kerry would be too busy changing his mind on every issue that he would effectively serve to confuddle Congress and render it completely useless.

Hey, maybe that's not a bad idea. ;)

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

Kerry would be too busy changing his mind on every issue that he would effectively serve to confuddle Congress and render it completely useless.

Hey, maybe that's not a bad idea. ;)

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Bush changes his mind just as much, he's just done a better job of hiding it and doesn't bother to change it when it would actually be reasonable. ;)

But I stick by what I said. An ineffective idiot is better than an idiot with free reign. And as a bonus, Kerry could have kept congress in check as well so maybe we wouldn't have spending that stereotypical liberals could only dream of. With Bush and a republican congress we've got a total lack of accountability combined with the ability to spend billions of dollars, and we've seen how that's gone.

And yes, this would have applied to Kerry if congress were mostly democratic at the time. Bush would have been the better of both choices because he, too, would have been neutered.

The counter argument, of course, would be that historically when an incumbant has a Congress to deal with that isn't a majority of his own party that absolutely nothing of any significance gets done for the next ___ years.

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

The counter argument, of course, would be that historically when an incumbant has a Congress to deal with that isn't a majority of his own party that absolutely nothing of any significance gets done for the next ___ years.

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Right, which is why I said it's the better result if your two choices are both idiots. Obviously the best result would be a good, intelligent president who can work with congress without trying to usurp it, but I don't recall seeing him on the ballot. I'd rather have gridlock than a freefall.

Congress still has to answer to itself, its constituents, and to the Supreme Court on the validity of the laws that it passes. At least some decent legislation will get passed.

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

Congress still has to answer to itself

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Anyone who tries to fight the rampant spending gets ostracized and loses political clout.

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its constituents

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via pork

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and to the Supreme Court on the validity of the laws that it passes.

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And I'm infinitely glad for this.

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At least some decent legislation will get passed.

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Amidst the sea of bullshit spending and asinine issues congress has obsessed over.

I honestly don't even care if a republican majority stays in congress. I just want these republicans out. The revolution of 1994 is long dead, corruption and complacency have taken hold, and frankly I think this congress has done more harm to this country than Bush could ever manage.

I actually agree, the religious right cock suckers in congress do need to go.

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

I read exactly what you said. Dissing Bush as an "uneducated" leader that got us stuck in Iraq when he had a higher GPA than Kerry did makes NO SENSE.

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It does make some sense. GPA is one thing, but Bush has made a point in his time in office as being pretty anti-intellectual, or at least playing up his image as a regular joe who doesn't read the newspaper, etc. In that way it makes perfect sense, even if it isn't true.