There's a graphic for what you get as a free member versus the sub
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Operations are raids, yeah? Looks like you're fucked if you wanna raid at all.
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There's a graphic for what you get as a free member versus the sub
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Operations are raids, yeah? Looks like you're fucked if you wanna raid at all.
Exactly... this was a shock to no one. Jokes (and bets) were made on how quickly the game would go F2P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timber
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"On the investors conference call, Frank Gibeau (head of Labels) confirmed that The Old Republic's subscription base has indeed fallen beneath 1 million and that the company has been "disappointed" with the game's performance. Gibeau noted that 500,000 is the break-even point, and while the game is still well above that, the numbers are not acceptable, he said."
This conversation isn't interesting enough for one thread, let alone two. Can a mod move all this shit to the game's thread?
edit: Thanks, Mech!
The genre has never done better and has more releases than ever before that are doing much better than ever before. The problem is that WoW's success put a lot of people's expectations at that level of subscribers, instead of the 500k players that MMOs used to and still do live on (in 2004 FFXI and Everquest were the most popular MMOs in the world with around 450-500k subs each, and Ultima Online was like 250k).Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
You're right in that it may not have returned the full amount yet (napkin math looks like they made 100mil from initial sales and assuming they got second month subs from all those, and the report is that it cost 200mil to develop), I'm just saying this looks like a proactive attempt to continue making money instead of letting it slowly crumble while they cut staff to save costs and stop offering new content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
That's a fair point. I never gave much thought to the number of subscribers, though as development costs increase, the break even point will too, since the sub fees have remained largely flat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Anyone that plays MMOs could see that their weird single-player story focus wasn't going to work. The people who were attracted to it finished the story and left during their trial month. The real MMO faggorts don't care and rush the content to play the end game.
All of us that had been playing these horrible games knew how it'd go from the start.
I will definitely play through the story segment for free and then peace out, that sounds wonderful.
Matrix Online and that space MMO with Lord British were bigger flops than this. Still, spending 200 million even before advertising, and culling the staff twice suggests TOR was pretty floppy.
it's really not...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Those games didn't cost $200 million to make (although I think Tabula Rasa was pretty expensive).Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronChance
I don't think anything was a bigger flop than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronChance