Killzone 2 (PS3)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarkRyan

After the outright lies of E3 2005

---

Yeah, totally. That trailer was probablly the biggest piece of bullshit any E3 has ever pumped out.

That said, yeah, they managed to get the gameplay footage pretty similar, graphically, although there doesn't appear to be nearly as many enemies on-screen as I remember there being in the 2005 trailer. That trailer seemed to have a full-scale war going on, while what we really seem to be getting is on par with the original Killzone, with maybe 3-4 enemies at a time.

That said, Killzone 2 doesn't seem to blow away any high-end PC FPS, but it certainly stands up to them.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

It does look good, but more on a account of the nice art assets than the tech.

---

This to me is a huge positive (though I don't think you can fairly deny the game's technical achievement). Implementing a checklist of what's-what in video game graphic tech right now makes games look very samey and generic. Walking around the office watching people play random FPS games (usually on PC), I can hardly tell them apart. Killzone, I think, looks very special and still very impressive.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarkRyan

This to me is a huge positive (though I don't think you can fairly deny the game's technical achievement). Implementing a checklist of what's-what in video game graphic tech right now makes games look very samey and generic. Walking around the office watching people play random FPS games (usually on PC), I can hardly tell them apart. Killzone, I think, looks very special and still very impressive.

---

I don't think you'd ever mistake Bioshock for UT3. People make this complaint based on UT3 looking a lot like gears, but it's the same developer, not just the same engine. Rainbow 6 Vegas and Roboblitz use that engine too and it doesn't result in sameness. I just don't think that's the case.

Not like Killzone 2 is a joke or anything, but it's not as impressive as Killzone 1 was in its day on its hardware.

My real hope for Killzone 2:

In the first Killzone, there are four characters to choose between. One is good all-around, one is good at sniping and crawling into tight spaces, one is good with heavy weapons (and I think he can break through barricades or something), and one is good with the enemy's weapons.

It's one of the more interesting dynamics of Killzone but it's not used enough. First issue is that you have to choose the character before you enter the stage. The other problem is that the level design doesn't make enough use of the differences between, especially, the heavy weapons dude and the sniper lady.

I'm hoping that Killzone 2 not only has level design that more frequently shows the differences in characters, but also lets you switch between characters on the fly. I don't know that Guerrilla is clever enough to do so, but I think it'd be pretty rad to have Lost Vikings-esque design that requires you to use each character's abilities to progress.

And Frogacude, I think you're nuts to suggest anything else on the horizon looks as impressive as this :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarkRyan

I'm hoping that Killzone 2 not only has level design that more frequently shows the differences in characters, but also lets you switch between characters on the fly. I don't know that Guerrilla is clever enough to do so, but I think it'd be pretty rad to have Lost Vikings-esque design that requires you to use each character's abilities to progress.

---

Iw orry about this cause weve basically seen the entire first mission of the game, and there is no real character identification or persona shown off, i hope you dont become some nameless soldier in the game.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarkRyan

And Frogacude, I think you're nuts to suggest anything else on the horizon looks as impressive as this :)

---

You are out of your fucking mind if you think that looks better than Crysis.

As for KZ2, I could give a shit about the tech. I want atmosphere. The first one had an exceedingly cohesive world & focused on little touches to bring you into the game. The way your character moves, runs, reloads and the way the guns fired did more to invest me in that game than anything else. From what little I've seen of KZ2 it seems to take that realism & go over the top with it. I'm eagerly awaiting this.

JM

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarkRyan

And Frogacude, I think you're nuts to suggest anything else on the horizon looks as impressive as this :)

---

Am I? Am I really?

i love how weve turned to crisis to try to deny this game. Id imagine youd use cod4 of all games, hell i dont see people making the crisis conparison on cod4 r any other fps. 360 cant run crisis, this is a console game, keep it in console standards or you defeat your own argument

I want to play this game, too.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by RDM Brian

i love how weve turned to crisis to try to deny this game. Id imagine youd use cod4 of all games, hell i dont see people making the crisis conparison on cod4 r any other fps. 360 cant run crisis, this is a console game, keep it in console standards or you defeat your own argument

---

Hey, he said ANY game, so I went for the top. But yeah, CoD4 looks amazing and has some pretty sophisticated rendering going on. But hell, even Gears of War would suffice.