Shenmue

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Originally Posted by Grave

No, I really don't want this. I'm already sick of Wii games throwing up onscreen prompts every time I'm supposed to pretend I'm pulling a lever or whatever the hell. The intentions are sometimes decent but it's not immersive in the least, if anything it drags you out of the game even more.

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Thats true, I can definitely see your argument there. I think some games use the motion controls really well (Zak and Wiki), but the majority of the time it does drag you out of the experience. Plus, it would be way too easy for Sega to do a really crappy port of one of the Shenmue games with some half assed motion controls thrown in.

Like you say, the "intentions are decent" and in a perfect world the Wii controls would offer a completely immersive experience. However, more often than not, the Wii controls have the opposite effect of what was intended. Still though, with the proper development time put in...and with the motion controls used in a smart manner...they could really add to the immersive feel that Sega was originally going for with the Shenmue series.

Shenmue is the best game I've ever played. Shenmue II is the second best game I've ever played.

Both games are great, 2 is definitely better. Both games have problems, though, and I could very easily see someone despising them. I appreciate how meticulously designed the gameworld is, though. Labor of love, etc. And isn't it illegal to dislike something with a cherry blossom-catching minigame?

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Originally Posted by Brand X

Shenmue is boring crap. The dialogue was horrendous, the gameplay was non existent, and anyone who promotes these box moving/book shuffling excuses for games has no soul.

With that said....I gave both of these games an honest chance, I played through both to the end even though I found them eye gougingly boring, yet I still can't see the appeal. Both of them were ahead of their time as far as technology goes but that didn't make them any good as far as I'm concerned. I still cannot understand how people didn't find these games boring. QTE's should have been replaced with something that was actually fun, the do a job 10,000 times should have also been replaced with something that was actually fun, and there needed to be far more of the fighting since that was what was easily the strongest part of the game.

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This definitely needs repeating.

I had no idea so many TNL posters like the game. It's amazing (not the game).

Throw me in the "I don't get it" pile. I tried it for a weekend and went back to figuring out how to jump rooftop-to-rooftop in Crazy Taxi.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

For those in the "don't like it" pile, I'm curious if you guys don't like the graphic adventure genre in general or is it specifically this series?

I <3 Sam and Max and Grim Fandango, so it ain't that.

edit: I think part of it is that Shenmue has no sense of humor about itself. It's pretentious.

Shenmue to me seems way before it's time... There was so much potential that could have been accomplished, but I don't think that the Dreamcast could entirely produce everything that they wanted. I truly think that Sega should totally redo the game for ps3 or 360 make it one large game like the originally intended, take out some redundant gameplay and add things that worked real well that was in Yakuza. I know it's just a pipe dream, but they'll never continue the story so they should just redo the whole thing.

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

For those in the "don't like it" pile, I'm curious if you guys don't like the graphic adventure genre in general or is it specifically this series?

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I love the adventure genre. I just found the Shenmue games to be totally boring.