Election Thread 2008 MAKE SURE YOU VOTE

Why would he know better than Obama what Obama's plan is? It's pretty clear and it hasn't changed. Turn off Hannity and think for a minute.

Yeah, didn't Richardson LOSE the nomination? Yes he did.



In any event, the reality is that our economy needs more taxes, not less. There isn't enough money going into our government to pay for two wars and to enable Wall Street to keep up its crappy business practices. But it's suicide to say you have to raise taxes or ask for sacrifices. So basically they have to both lie about it to people who really think it will make a difference, and therefore doesn't matter in the long run.

Anyone who gets far enough to run for President probably hasn't been an angel his whole life, so basically I think it ultimately boils down to intangibles, God-given gifts if you will, that aren't really in anyone's control. Except campaigns will often try to create something that isn't there, or hide something that is.

Obama's campaign lets him be Obama. McCain's campaign? Not so much. And I think it's something people are picking up on one level or another. McCain's acts like someone who is not in control and has a bunch of suits yelling at him at all sides the minute he gets off camera.

time for yawa to get some hand relief

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Everyone. Everyone. If you read his plan, he calls it by several different names, but everyone who pays taxes will pay more.

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Originally Posted by The_Meach

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gop.com

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Originally Posted by TODE

What we need is a president who will cut taxes on big corporations and the wealthiest Americans, because they clearly deserve to be rewarded for all their hard work.

But I'm not smart, so I'm voting for Obama.

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There will be no jobs left in the US if corporate taxes make our companies even less competitive than they are now, so if you think anything other than cutting corporate taxes in some form is smart, you're last statement is dead on.

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Originally Posted by The_Meach

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Obama's web site. Read the plan and cut through the different terms he invents.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

This is kind of a dumbass point that McCain latched onto. The figues Obama has always quoted are: an increase for those over $250,000, and a cut for those under $200,000. Between $200,000 and $250,000 stays the same.

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And yet he plans to bring the Bush cuts to an end, which, no matter what the hell he wants to call it, is an across the board tax increase. That's the most obvious lie he's spewing but certainly not the only one in the realm of taxes.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

And yet he plans to bring the Bush cuts to an end, which, no matter what the hell he wants to call it, is an across the board tax increase.

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No, he's always said he's making the Bush cuts permanent for 95% of us, I distinctly recall him bringing this up in the Bill O'Reilly interview. I don't understand how taxing that other 5% = across-the-board increase, other that creating some trickle-down tax scenario. So explain how saving me (let's say) $500 in taxes translates to me paying more taxes.