Rockstar Joins Steam Portfolio

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Originally Posted by Granderoho

well if PC games sales keep on declining because of piracy it won't matter if a 250$ graphics card can beat the hell out of the PS3, PC gamers will start migrating to the consoles because game makers will stop making the killer aps on them.

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Except that it's going the opposite way. Nearly every big multiplatform release comes to PC, and Steam, which is what this fucking thread is about, eliminates piracy completely.

It really sucks that Crysis sold so few copies, something like 80,000 copies, then I heard there is something like 20,000 pirated torrent downloads that are downloaded everyday.

lol you think piracy made crysis sell poorly.

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Originally Posted by Granderoho

well if PC games sales keep on declining because of piracy it won't matter if a 250$ graphics card can beat the hell out of the PS3, PC gamers will start migrating to the consoles because game makers will stop making the killer aps on them. The only games that they will make will be games like WoW where you pretty much can't pirate. Even now people have found ways to pirate WoW, by playing on private servers.

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Honestly, you're right. PC gaming will always exist because it's the only open platform, but the days of high budget exclusives are dwindling because piracy makes the platform unappealing to devs.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Except that it's going the opposite way. Nearly every big multiplatform release comes to PC, and Steam, which is what this fucking thread is about, eliminates piracy completely.

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Yeah, multiplatform releases come to PC because, at least in theory, PC piracy doesn't eat into console sales, only into PC sales. So you can do a port and make some money, it's worth it, even if a lot of people pirate it.

The fact is a LOT of people still play PC games, but what's the last PC game you saw crack the top 10 in sales? How does a high profile game with positive reviews like Unreal Tournament III sell 37,000? Piracy is absolutely making the PC an unappealing platform to have an exclusive on.

Exclusives don't matter when you have the best version of every game though.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Exclusives don't matter when you have the best version of every game though.

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You say that now, I really doubt you feel that way in 5 years when every game feels the same

I wonder if there are any non-spun PC piracy statistics out there. I'm genuinely interested in seeing how much is pirated compared to how much is bought.

Also, isn't Steam undefeatable for the most part? I know there are the odd pirated versions of Steam games out there but I certainly haven't seen very many.

I remember Ritual talking about Sin Episode 1 piracy, for what it's worth. That's the only game I can think of, though.

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Originally Posted by bVork

I wonder if there are any non-spun PC piracy statistics out there. I'm genuinely interested in seeing how much is pirated compared to how much is bought.

Also, isn't Steam undefeatable for the most part? I know there are the odd pirated versions of Steam games out there but I certainly haven't seen very many.

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I've seen pirated versions of counter strike source, but I think like WoW, you have to play on private servers. It shouldn't be a problem if there are so many people that pirate the game.

Counterstrike Source was available on disc.