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22 Dec 2008, 10:09 PM
Giga Power

That game is more addicting than crack and it's a steal at 400 damn points.

Buy it. Don't even try the demo.
23 Dec 2008, 05:48 AM
James

I don't understand why Carneyvale isn't a full XBLA game. Maybe it just costs less to be on the Community Games page, but it's a shame to see it amidst the crapware, and I really hope it doesn't get lost in there.

James
23 Dec 2008, 04:49 PM
Matthew Doucette

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Originally Posted by Giga Power

Microsoft really needs to allow Community games to have achievement points. Maybe just 50 total, but they need to have it. Original Xbox games should be the only thing on the service without it.

Unlocking those achievements in Biology Battle just isn't the same.

:cry:

They need achievements and leaderboards. I'm making a Community Game right now, and the next big thing they could do for us (developers and gamers alike) is grant us achievements and leaderboards. Biology Battle did the best they could do with what was given to them. They have online scoreboards that share p2p with other online users. We are thinking about doing the same "hack" for our game. But it would be much better if it were official. Plus p2p only works for Gold memeberships, not silver. :(

Biology Battle and Weapon of Choice are the two games I have purchased so far. Biology Battle's online scoreboard keeps me addicted to it. After feeling this, I want it in every game I buy, including my own.
23 Dec 2008, 04:54 PM
Matthew Doucette

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Originally Posted by Giga Power

But yeah, I'd love to see these games with a 50-100 point achievement range. I absolutely love the idea of people being able to get their games out there, because eventually you'll get some really great stuff coming down the pipeline, but it's just insane they leave out one of the systems best features.

That's exactly the strong point of XBLCG... the top 1 or 2 percent of games that will come out for it, now that developers will have a chance to pass on their games to you, when they otherwise would not have. I hang out on shmup (shoot'em up) forums and there are tons of indie games that the general public never gets to see. And some of them are good.

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Originally Posted by Giga Power

As far as price goes...I bought Biology Battle at 800 points. Even though the game is fantastic and the production values are high I can't help but feel like it should be cheaper. The idea of a Community game being as much as a Live Arcade title, one with achievements and online play, just doesn't seem right.

Biology Battle put a lot of money into it's development, a bit more than the typical XBLCG game. That's why they have 800pts on it. But it would have been nice if MS offered them a 600 or 700 pt option, not 400 pt (half!), in case they wanted to step just a bit below Geometry Wars and not compete head on.

A lot of devs are just guessing at prices now. You'll see better games for cheaper, I predict.
23 Dec 2008, 04:56 PM
Matthew Doucette

(BTW, I'm new here... when I am allowed to start my own thread?)
23 Dec 2008, 05:04 PM
Bacon McShig

Yeah, no leaderboards definitely sucks. But I 100% agree on not allowing achievements, the potential for misuse is just too great. Go play Swords and Monsters and imagine what the achievements for that would have been like.

Ideally, there could be an MS review process that could verify any proposed achievements' legitimacy and issue special exceptions for ones that are done in good spirit, but everyone would end up submitting for want of that exception. Wasn't having a queue of games in limbo waiting for MS for approval exactly what Community Games was structured to avoid?

What kind of game are you working on, Matt?
23 Dec 2008, 10:11 PM
Nick

Welcome, Matthew. Your game looks very promising.

New members can make a thread here after a thirty days and twenty-five posts.
23 Dec 2008, 10:14 PM
Josh

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Originally Posted by Matthew Doucette

They need achievements and leaderboards.

I agree with you completely. I would be all over some of these games if they had achievements.
23 Dec 2008, 10:35 PM
Dyne

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Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

What kind of game are you working on, Matt?

Click the yellow words in his sig.
24 Dec 2008, 12:04 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by Josh

I agree with you completely. I would be all over some of these games if they had achievements.

Some do. They just don't lengthen your e-peen with more gamerscore.

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