NEW or USED and why?

I can't see pirating a game, only if used ones are available. I look at it this way, at least a used game sitting at a store like Gamestop, was traded in with the possibility of someone taking that money and buying a new game. The publisher of the new game see's the cash they deserve for publishing it, and the used game seller can recoup the losses taken from the used game by selling it. Everyone gets their deserved money.



On to the subject. I buy new games, when they are the must have titles I want. I buy used games, if they are in near mint or mint condition. I've bought plenty of used SNES, NES, Genesis, and VB games used, with manuals, boxes and mint condition cartridges. I had a large collection of DC, N64 and PSX games in new/mint condition, but they were stolen last year. I've replaced most of those titles with used one's, and some new, as availability often forced me to buy them used. I'll only buy used games if they are in mint condition, unless availability forces me to buy them in less than desireable condition.


Now as far as having games that are'nt opened. Only those games that I have more than one copy of, will I leave the second or third copy unopened. Those games that are unopened are that way, because I bought them at a great price, and would like a backup copy, or I know that I can sell them for a huge profit later, because I bought them at a very cheap price.

You could make the argument that money not spent on used games can be put towards new stuff.

To answer Tsubaki, I do infact recognize that piracy hurts EB and Ebay sellers. My stance on that has always been very simple, I don't care. EB charges more than everyone else and their stuff isn't even really new. I choose to support the actual developers and retailers who charge less for games still in the shrinkwrap.

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Originally posted by Johnny
You could make the argument that money not spent on used games can be put towards new stuff.

To answer Tsubaki, I do infact recognize that piracy hurts EB and Ebay sellers. My stance on that has always been very simple, I don't care. EB charges more than everyone else and their stuff isn't even really new. I choose to support the actual developers and retailers who charge less for games still in the shrinkwrap.

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That's rather weak. Just about every time I go into a store like Gamestop or EB, someone is trading their used games in, to get the next must own new game. People that are buying the used games, balance out the equation. The prices at EB are pretty much the same as most retailers, when it comes to the new games. The industry sets the retail cost of the new games, so the price is in most occasions, the same at all electronic's retailers.

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I do infact recognize that piracy hurts EB and Ebay sellers. My stance on that has always been very simple, I don't care.

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Well that was my point. Whether you care for these people or not, it's irrelevant. That's why piracy is wrong, and unjustifiable even if you are looking out for the gaming market, which is a good thing. I understand WHY you don't care about EB/Ebay sellers. But that's entirely different from trying to say you have every right to pirate, given those circumstances.

And anyway, what about my scenario? I bought RS for $40. Someone else buys it for $180. How come you get it for free? You can pull the "I don't care" rule on us too, but fact of the matter is you're not supposed to have it for free.

I don't have every right to pirate, I realize it's illegal and harmful to certain groups. I don't try to paint it as being totally harmless, and I never will.

Now as for the RS scenario, it is unfair. It would be nice if everyone could buy any game they wanted new, and then noone would have any excuses. Again I realize it's unfair to some and certainly illegal, but can you really blame someone for pirating a game they'd otherwise have to pay hundreds for? What if they write Treasure a cheque, would they be in the right then despite legality? I don't need anyone to explain supply and demand to me. So some Ebay vulture can't take advantage of current market conditions, is that really so awful? What did they do to deserve profiting from that game? Well they lucked out really, and I don't think the reward is deserved.

In the end it really is a case of I don't care, despite whatever laws are in place. It's not like I'm out murdering people and trying to excuse it with "well I don't think it's really anything to get worked up over". I'm just not being a model capitalist.

No excuses, I know what I'm doing and I have no problem with it. Some will hate me for it, and I say let them.

The difference between pirating and buying second-hand is that you have the potential for mass replication and distribution with piracy. Whereas that one SMB/Duck Hunt cart can only move from one owner to another at a time, and it's a reasonably safe bet that Nintendo saw some money for it at one point or another.

But seriously... who cares? Or, more specifically, who cares enough to the point that they're going to harass and belittle people on a message board whom they barely know in the interests of splitting a few moral and legal hairs?

I buy new whenever I can, and when I buy used I try to buy only complete mint/near mint. Sometimes, when I'm having trouble finding something, I dont mind just buying the cart or CD, but if I find it again complete and minty, I'll buy it again. For instance I just recently bought Shadowrun complete and minty for the Genesis, even though I already had the cart. It was just the cart though, and the lable is a little messed up. So I actually found out something new, when in Cyber space, executing a program with diffrent buttons give you diffrent postures. A = offensive, B = neutral, C = defensive. Im sure that will help out.

If anyone wants a cart of Shadowrun.. lemme know before I sell it.

Z-roe

I prefer to buy games new, but if I can find them at a decent price in decent, working condition, I'm happy to buy them secondhand. A few scratches in a CD or DVD can always be removed with a disc repair kit. ^_~

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Originally posted by Johnny
I don't have every right to pirate, I realize it's illegal and harmful to certain groups. I don't try to paint it as being totally harmless, and I never will.

Now as for the RS scenario, it is unfair. It would be nice if everyone could buy any game they wanted new, and then noone would have any excuses. Again I realize it's unfair to some and certainly illegal, but can you really blame someone for pirating a game they'd otherwise have to pay hundreds for? What if they write Treasure a cheque, would they be in the right then despite legality? I don't need anyone to explain supply and demand to me. So some Ebay vulture can't take advantage of current market conditions, is that really so awful? What did they do to deserve profiting from that game? Well they lucked out really, and I don't think the reward is deserved.

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Look at it, as a person that buys stock in an unknown company. They bought the stock cheap, and reap the returns, when the stock price goes up. Same goes for buying a game, that will be worth more in the future. The person made the investment, and will get the larger return, for laying the money out, in the first place.


I'll admit though. If I had an opportunity, to get a burned copy of RS, I would'nt turn it down, as $100 + for a used game is a gamble. I don't even know if I'd like the game. If I did, I would then try to find a seller with a legit copy, so as to have a complete game.

Here's a more interesting question:

Would you buy a game that you already own? I would, depending on the game and the condition of course. While I have the Famicom version of Metal Gear, I want a complete copy of the game just for the manual (which was way different and better than the Japanese one) and to have one of the collector's card that came with the game.