Metroid: Other M

I would have shit all over this if not for the Metroid Prime games. I may not agree with everything Retro did with the series, but they made it work and I'm certainly open to see Team Ninja's interpretation. I'm fairly excited about this.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

These are games which RELY on story.

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I liked Metroid and Zelda much better when they didn't have much in the way of story. Compare the beginning of Link to the Past to the dogshit openings in every 3D Zelda.

Zelda: hey link I need help
Link: it's go time

And then fun begins! I miss that. Every piece of dialogue in Metroid Prime 3 made me want to die a little bit. And while I respect Retro's visual work for what it is, it's not what I wanted for Metroid. It's too early for me to tell if this is any more in line with what I wanted to see, but... yeah, I dunno about that CG.

I don't understand the positive reactions, or the quibbling. I'm willing to say that this looks like a lot of fun and could be interesting. It just wont be Metroid.

Yeah yeah, I've seen the comments about what was said for Prime. I was a bit apprehensive of Prime until I saw developer comments that exploration would be a focus. I also understand that Metroid games contain a lot of action. Thing is, that's quite a lot of games. Not as many games nail the enjoyment of exploration.

Metroid hangs its hat on that exploration and without it, it fails as a Metroid game. It also gets a lot of what it is from the loneliness, alienation, and the (albeit false) sense of freedom that is created in the games worlds. With talking characters, space stations filled with people, communication of any kind, combat focused on melee and wirefu; one by one the attributes that I really enjoy about Metroid go away, and this becomes just another space shooter. Of course, later revelations on game play could easily change my opinion.

Also, I've never enjoyed anything that's come from Team Ninja. So I'm probably an odd one in my opinions. I'm curious though, is this Team Ninja with Itagaki, or Team Ninja at Tecmo? Did he have the rights to that name? Did he take it with him when he left? I don't really pay much attention to the ugly talentless bastard.

Still waiting on an arrow beam...

Itagaki is no longer with Team Ninja or Tecmo. That's probably a good thing regarding this game. Hell, I doubt this game would be happening if he were still there.

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Originally Posted by EightBit

I don't understand the positive reactions, or the quibbling. I'm willing to say that this looks like a lot of fun and could be interesting. It just wont be Metroid.

Yeah yeah, I've seen the comments about what was said for Prime. I was a bit apprehensive of Prime until I saw developer comments that Exploration would be a focus. I also understand that Metroid games contain a lot of action. Thing is, that quite a lot of games. Not as many game nail the enjoyment of exploration.

Metroid hangs its hat on that exploration and without it, it fails as a Metroid game. It also gets a lot of what it is from the loneliness, alienation, and the (albeit false) sense of freedom that is created in the game worlds. With talking characters, space stations filled with people, communication of any kind, combat focused on melee and wirefu; one by one the attributes that I really enjoy about Metroid go away, and this becomes just another space shooter.

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This. Very much agree. Optimistic but hate to see this series completely jump the shark.

Shes a bounty hunter.

its about fucking time she starts kicking ass again.

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Originally Posted by EightBit

I don't understand the positive reactions, or the quibbling. I'm willing to say that this looks like a lot of fun and could be interesting. It just wont be Metroid.

Yeah yeah, I've seen the comments about what was said for Prime. I was a bit apprehensive of Prime until I saw developer comments that exploration would be a focus. I also understand that Metroid games contain a lot of action. Thing is, that's quite a lot of games. Not as many games nail the enjoyment of exploration.

Metroid hangs its hat on that exploration and without it, it fails as a Metroid game. It also gets a lot of what it is from the loneliness, alienation, and the (albeit false) sense of freedom that is created in the games worlds. With talking characters, space stations filled with people, communication of any kind, combat focused on melee and wirefu; one by one the attributes that I really enjoy about Metroid go away, and this becomes just another space shooter. Of course, later revelations on game play could easily change my opinion.

Also, I've never enjoyed anything that's come from Team Ninja. So I'm probably an odd one in my opinions. I'm curious though, is this Team Ninja with Itagaki, or Team Ninja at Tecmo? Did he have the rights to that name? Did he take it with him when he left? I don't really pay much attention to the ugly talentless bastard.

Still waiting on an arrow beam...

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This is a good post except for the contradictory first paragraph. You pointed out the reasons I'm not so excited for this game. Also, Samus is not a shy looking, big-tittied anime chick. She's a tall, physically strong alpha femme. Fucking Team Ninja.

<Team Ninja Brainstorming Session>: Heyyy!!! I've got a great idea for Metroid, I don't even know how this incredible idea came to me; what if we made it like a Ninja game!!!!!!

The thing is this is a Wii thing, so I just can't find myself giving a shit.

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Originally Posted by Kbu Chan

All three were very colorful, rich games. I can't imagine how anyone could claim otherwise.

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Not from what I remember and a page 1 google image search agrees. Even from the little we see in the new trailer it already has more of the look of Super Metroid compared to any of the Primes.

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Originally Posted by EightBit

Of course, later revelations on game play could easily change my opinion.

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Then wait for them before stating definitively that "it won't be Metroid"?

I mean, how do you expect them to show exploration in a trailer? And how do you expect them to do it in a way that makes the trailer visually interesting? Just because it wasn't shown in the very first teaser trailer, designed to let the world know that the game exists, doesn't mean it isn't in the final product.

People (not just you) really seem to be raging a whole hell of a lot over a trailer that barely shows any coherent gameplay, and are drawing a whole lot of conclusions about what the game will and won't have. At least wait until we actually know how the damn thing plays before declaring that Team Ninja is making Ninja Metroid, abandoning exploration and raping the character of Samus. We have yet to see or hear anything of substance so you're going on a stylishly-edited trailer and a whole lot of cynicism.

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Originally Posted by Destro777

Not from what I remember and a page 1 google image search agrees. Even from the little we see in the new trailer it already has more of the look of Super Metroid compared to any of the Primes.

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Uh, all of those shots are from Metroid Prime 2, which pretty much everyone agrees is the least colorful by far.