Do You Trust the Police?

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Originally Posted by Diff-chan

That's good and all, but you need a degree to get a job in my field, say.

I think that if you're not willing to get a degree in a science or engineering field, then you should think twice about going.

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Six years after graduating college, I agree. I started off with a science degree but switched to one in the arts. Sure, some high end places won't even look at you if you never graduated but your work can speak volumes.

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Originally Posted by Diff-chan

This is not correct.

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Maybe not where you live, but in Canada, a bachelor's degree might as well be a receipt from the dry cleaner.

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Originally Posted by Diff-chan

That's good and all, but you need a degree to get a job in my field, say.

I think that if you're not willing to get a degree in a science or engineering field, then you should think twice about going.

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Sure, I'm not advocating no one pursue higher education. The science fields are the type of knowledge that isn't going to be learned very well in an apprenticeship situation. And I'm not saying no one should go to art school either. I'm just saying that for most people it's a colossal waste of time and money.

College nowadays is four years of leisure time for the upper class. Most of the kids at UCLA were upper class white and Asian kids who got to work at their dad's company during the summer. College doesn't matter much for those sorts. They'll be fine. There's lots of bullshit majors to accomodate them, "business" being the most prominent.

That's why I said science and engineering. The useful knowledge is there, and if you're good, you can get a job without having connections. I found my job on Monster. So my point is that if you're not part of that connected upper class, don't pretend you are by getting a connected upper class degree.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

Sure, I'm not advocating no one pursue higher education. The science fields are the type of knowledge that isn't going to be learned very well in an apprenticeship situation. And I'm not saying no one should go to art school either. I'm just saying that for most people it's a colossal waste of time and money.

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Nah. I'd say the best way to learn science and engineering is through apprenticeship like work. But you won't get that kind of work without going through a college. They've become huge gatekeepers to that kind of work. If there was some magical way that I could've done engineering work for all the years I've been in college, I'd done that, gladly. The standard learning method of colleges, where you read a book about concepts and then work little ideal word problems is an inferior method of learning how to design anything.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

could of done

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College educated you say?

Despite taking three writing classes, college does not teach you how to write.

I'm not sure when that was suppose to have happened. I think I must have been sick that day.

"supposed to have happened."

I told you I was sick that day.

Did you of a cold?