Religion and Science in the Classroom

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Originally Posted by Josh

Don't you yip and yap about welfare all the time?

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Yep, for working age people without severe handicaps, it should not exist... at all. Every kid should get a chance. If they take that chance and flush it, fuck 'em.

edit: We're now about to go way off topic.

edit2: I need to get the death penalty in there. I firmly believe there are people so heinous that the world is a better place without them in it, whether free or locked up. I'd consider lifetime Alcatraz-style solitary as an alternative but not any scenario where they could potentially influence others in any way.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

edit: We're now about to go way off topic.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

This thread has been so much more interesting since we [went off topic]

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Yep, for working age people without severe handicaps, it should not exist... at all. Every kid should get a chance. If they take that chance and flush it, fuck 'em.

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So welfare is ok below the age of 18?

Indeed. I don't think I've ever posted anything to the contrary. If I have, it was out of laziness in terms of not wanting to type a lot and not out of believing otherwise.

Somehow we have to address the "professional moms" that keep having kids to get checks. I'll be the first to admit I don't have all the answers as to how you protect those children without rewarding their parasitic mother.

Well then. What about those that game the system? The oft-discussed "welfare queens"

You beat me to my edit.

I believe abortion and/or establishing criteria for when people can reproduce would solve like 90% of our social issues. Gnostic as fuck on that one.

Of course the biggest argument against abortion/contraception in general is religion, so awesome.

The biggest argument against contraception is idiocy, but the first amendment protects that in all kinds of areas.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Yep, for working age people without severe handicaps, it should not exist... at all. Every kid should get a chance. If they take that chance and flush it, fuck 'em.

edit: We're now about to go way off topic.

edit2: I need to get the death penalty in there. I firmly believe there are people so heinous that the world is a better place without them in it, whether free or locked up. I'd consider lifetime Alcatraz-style solitary as an alternative but not any scenario where they could potentially influence others in any way.

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I also agree with this. I was unemployed for over a year and never got unemployment because it wasn't the other tax payers fault that I was going back to school for a while. I My friends that ride unemployment on purpose just to not work disgust me. I don't have the answer for helping people that genuinely need it, but blanket systems like this provide too much money to people who don't deserve it.

I'm pro choice though. Duh

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I believe abortion and/or establishing criteria for when people can reproduce would solve like 90% of our social issues. Gnostic as fuck on that one.

Of course the biggest argument against abortion/contraception in general is religion, so awesome.

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Mike Judge would agree. Idiocracy = Prophecy. Imo, of course.

RE: Religion. Been doing some thinking. I was raised Catholic, so of course that makes me cynical toward religion. However, when I look back on mankind I've noticed that throughout the millennia, for whatever reason, man has found the need to "look up" at the sky and I think that comes from a sense of spirituality, and thus religion is born. The interpretation of spirituality varies from culture to culture. From the ancient Greeks and their gods, to the Egyptians, Aztecs, or any other civilization, each had (has) their own interpretation of spirituality and guidelines for how to live life. Take away the anecdotes and hyperbole within the tora, bible, koran, Egyptian Book of the Dead, etc., all religions are basically the same.

That said, I've been getting into Bhuddism, and to me it explains the universe and how it works a lot better than some book some dude wrote thousands of years ago. But hey, to each his own.