Star Fox Zero + Guard (Wii U)

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Originally Posted by Hero

Yoshi - I know on the main map, when you pick a stage, before you confirm, you can press X to do co-pilot mode. Dunno if you have to beat a stage first (I beat the game before trying it), but I'd highly recommend trying it out. It definitely feels like a better, balanced experience.

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Thanks for the tip! We'll try it out.

Like right at the end of the game it all kind of worked for me. This isn't going to change anyone's mind, but it's a game that just gets better the more you play it. It makes me want to play Star Fox 64 again, and i wasn't ever a huge fan of Star Fox 64, so there's that.

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Originally Posted by Finch

but it's a game that just gets better the more you play it.

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I agree with this. Although I also know that, practically, a game shouldn't have that kind of barrier to entry.

Like, the more I play the more I know I'm getting better & the less awkward Gamepad aiming gets. I'm willing to put in that time even when it was all kinds of weird because I love rail shooters, Starfox 64, and Zero does have moments where it all feels incredible. Even when you're still learning the ropes.

So...I completely get that not everyone will want to give it a shot, knowing that it needs someone willing to go along with the controls AND willing to be bad at it as they acclimate. If you can do that, if the controls click with you really early on, it's a really fun game. Or...just play Co-pilot for everything. I know that's my most favorite way to play.

The more I read, the more I just want to hook my N64 back up and play some Starfox 64.

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Originally Posted by GohanX

I just want to hook my N64 back up

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Nintendo should be prosecuted for some kind of abuse for this.

SF64 3D is a pretty good remake. Also UltraHDMI N64.

Yea just play the 3DS one. It's good.

I've got it, I just prefer playing it on a TV.

I didn't really have any problems with the controls, I never really looked at the bottom screen unless I was shooting directly below me. It's pretty much like rubbing your belly while patting your head.

Finally played a few stages of this last night. I adjusted to the controls pretty quickly, and I think the gyro aiming is serviceable with auto-recenter on (only move with ZR). I didn't bother looking at the gamepad, and was mostly fine extrapolating from the cursor.

Coming from Star Fox 64, this game seems immediately faster and busier, with infinitely better All-Range sequences and more things to shoot in the bits that feel like a shooting gallery. idk, maybe there's a lot of poop that will drag the game down in later stages, but at this rate I think I'll enjoy it more than 64.