NES Classic Edition

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Originally Posted by Low

The most annoying part of that time was lack of info outside magazines and limited distribution (I can see why many game of that era are hard to track). Remember looking for stuff like Over Horizon, Star Odyssey, Dark Seed Sega CD, etc to find they didn't exist.

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I'm still hoping a rom or something of Dando/Vasum will show up one day.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

I say that, because during that time we had equal amounts of Japanese and Western development going on with those consoles.

I'm not saying we aren't getting new experiences, I'm just saying that they don't happen as often, because we have a lot less developers and publishers than we had back then.

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I think I get what you're saying and to me its all about the non-aaa developers. We had a lot more mid-tier games, and developers during the 16bit and 32bit generations. I could be wrong on this but it felt like with more mid tier games being released developers tried more things.

Look at Square for instance and their output during the 16 and 32 bit days vs The PS2 generation, and then the PS3 generation. The sheer diversity, and different genres they developed games in changes drastically.

There's definitely a clear divide between experimental games and big-budget games that didn't exist in the 16bit days.

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Originally Posted by YellerDog

Twenty+ years of incremental updates have brought on good and bad changes all over. I don't think anything is going to have that excitement of reading about Samurai Shodown 2 and then playing it for a quarter a month later, but that experience belongs to the young anyway.

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Do the young get to have that? I see a lot of small children playing shitty cell phone games. I can't imagine being blown away by that.

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Originally Posted by gamevet

I say that, because during that time we had equal amounts of Japanese and Western development going on with those consoles.

I'm not saying we aren't getting new experiences, I'm just saying that they don't happen as often, because we have a lot less developers and publishers than we had back then.

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That isn't specific to the snes. The same could be said for ps2. It had the mix of the snes and the release volume of the nes.

ps2 was goat.
Hurts me every time I say it. But it's true.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

Do the young get to have that? I see a lot of small children playing shitty cell phone games. I can't imagine being blown away by that.

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Well no more than finding out a neighbor has a pug or grandma made cake.

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Originally Posted by Fe 26

That isn't specific to the snes. The same could be said for ps2. It had the mix of the snes and the release volume of the nes.

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Were you following the conversation? I wasn't just referring to the SNES, and I think it's pretty obvious because I mentioned 32-bit.

The PS2 was the last dominant Japanese console (I don't consider the Wii a gamer's console) and the last front runner in Japan. Japan has been a handheld market since then, and because of that, Japan's software development has shrunk substantially.

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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

I think I get what you're saying and to me its all about the non-aaa developers. We had a lot more mid-tier games, and developers during the 16bit and 32bit generations. I could be wrong on this but it felt like with more mid tier games being released developers tried more things.

Look at Square for instance and their output during the 16 and 32 bit days vs The PS2 generation, and then the PS3 generation. The sheer diversity, and different genres they developed games in changes drastically.

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And I'm not saying this doesn't exist, because it does, and the "big" devs are taking less chances with mid-range games than they used to.

But that mid range is still very much there—we just call them "indies" at this point. I think if we looked back at those mid-range devs, especially during the 8- and 16-bit eras, they probably had few differences from the indie devs we have today. We just knew less about companies and had less exposure to the behind-the-scenes stuff, so in our minds we thought they were bigger companies than they were.