Gunbird 2!

[BER]

Originally posted by Triple Lei
With Marion, if I attack closer to the enemy, I can fire the sub shots much faster, destryoing the enemy faster - just like almost every other shooter I've played.

Yeah, I have yet use that power of hers effectively. I
find myself sticking her close to enemies longer than I
would with Alucard--certain enemies would fire by then, so
I have to run away and dodge their bullets from a
distance. And some would remain alive by then to threaten
me some more.

I learned to play Gunbird 2 by eliminating threats right
away, which I find to be the most effective way of playing
the game. And Alucard fits my style of play the best. You
approach the game differently, so I can accept why
Marion's better for you.

We never considered how easy it is to score well with each
character, though, and you seem to define "the rest of us"
as those who want to score better than those who just
focus on survival (like me). Maybe it's easier to chain
coins with Marion than with other characters?

Originally posted by Triple Lei
Also, do you go for the gemhead in 1-5? I'm experimenting with a way to stay in the safe spot in the middle while collecting most of the gems, but it's still pretty risky.

No, but I have tried to collect gems from it a few times.
Have you considered running up and down the middle?

[Punky Skunk]

The confidence boost of beating it once really helps.

Better scoring game this first round, but 2-1 destroyed me and I barely got anything out of it.

1,271,700 - Rob / Morrigan 2-1

[danhaigh]

Originally posted by Bern-D

Originally posted by Triple Lei
Also, do you go for the gemhead in 1-5? I'm experimenting with a way to stay in the safe spot in the middle while collecting most of the gems, but it's still pretty risky.

No, but I have tried to collect gems from it a few times.
Have you considered running up and down the middle?

I can collect from that gemhead with pretty consistent results, by virtue of the fact that I don't use the safe spot for dodging the subsequent attacks. I know I should, but I had developed a very different dodge before I ever learned about the safe spot, and old habits are hard to break. In any case, I do back-and-forth sweeps of most of the screen width, with a slight pause near the middle, about a quarter of the way up the screen. Not an elegant dodge, but easy enough to execute, and it means I can be out of position from gem collection when the waves of enemies start firing.

-Dan

[Triple Lei]

You mean there's another way?? Wow.

Here's a small movie I made of the situation... comments? Suggestions?

Also, is it possible to "lure" the gemhead by delaying shooting or what? (I guess I could try this myself, but meh.)

(and I could have sworn I posted my 34-coin chain... )

[Punky Skunk]

(and I could have sworn I posted my 34-coin chain... )

I thought I could hear someone's teeth gritting.

[BER]

Originally posted by Triple Lei
Here's a small movie I made of the situation... comments? Suggestions?

From watching your video, I understood where your safe
spot is and when it is no longer one. I've created a movie
which should help you collect more gems and still make it
to that safe spot.

http://www.shmups.com/beepreying/gb...e1-5_marion.avi
(3.43 MB, DiVX, ask if you want it)

You can take advantage of the first two turrets' poor aim.
Stay near the bottom of the screen and when those turrets
arrive, move up. Their first volley of bullets should pass
under you. Now you have more space to grab a few more gems
without allowing those turrets to re-aim. Dodge the next
set of bullets and move to the safe spot.

There is a way to deal with those sentry heads that follow
the turrets. Smash the middle head with your yo-yo, and
again on the left one. Move down to avoid the bullets from
the right head.

How did you earn a Lv. 1 charge to use on that third
walker? And how often can you get it before the walker
arrives? I would destroy the first two walkers with two
yo-yos, but sometimes, I lack enough charge to destroy the
third with the yo-yo. And Marion barely has enough range
in her yo-yo to destroy the first two walkers at the same
time--the margin for error is too slim.

Originally posted by Triple Lei
Also, is it possible to "lure" the gemhead by delaying shooting or what? (I guess I could try this myself, but meh.)

I found no way to lure the gemhead anywhere. :/

[Triple Lei]

I've created a movie which should help you collect more gems and still make it to that safe spot.

Too good my friend, too good...

How did you earn a Lv. 1 charge to use on that third walker? And how often can you get it before the walker arrives? I would destroy the first two walkers with two yo-yos, but sometimes, I lack enough charge to destroy the third with the yo-yo. And Marion barely has enough range in her yo-yo to destroy the first two walkers at the same time--the margin for error is too slim.

To show exactly what I did and how much charge I had at the beginning of the stage, as well as the power level I should have starting 1-5, I've created this video:

http://members.directvinternet.com/j...5_gemthing.avi

100% Mode7 tactics for the 1-4 boss of course (is there any other way? ), making sure to Power Down only once. Power Down twice and you're not totally screwed, but it's just a lot harder since you'll have to shoot that red weapon carrier for the Power Up without Powering Down again, and before it shoots at you!

I think I got the new gem collect path down, even though died in the video...


On another note, I finally found the ideal settings for my DivX videos! I just went to this FAQ which I found in this thread. The new video I made is about 5 megs @ 1 min & 13 secs, while the old one was about 5 megs @ 23 secs! (and yeah I rotated the video this time around )

[BER]

Originally posted by Triple Lei
Too good my friend, too good...

Yeah, but as an Alucard player, I can't do that in
practice. I would just bomb all those turrets.

Originally posted by Triple Lei
100% Mode7 tactics for the 1-4 boss of course (is there any other way? ), making sure to Power Down only once.

I tried Mode7's method before, and the bird's wing keeps
running into me when it does its loose spray attack. What
landmarks do you use to find this safe spot?

Oh, and about the turret scene in 1-5. When the bullets
from the rightmost turret cross right in front of you, it's
time to move up. That turret keeps floating down and its
line of fire would eventually cross the safe spot.

Originally posted by Triple Lei
On another note, I finally found the ideal settings for my DivX videos! I just went to this FAQ which I found in this thread.

Those settings should shrink my videos by about 10%. Thanks
for passing along the info, Triple Lei.

[Triple Lei]

Originally posted by Bern-D
I tried Mode7's method before, and the bird's wing keeps running into me when it does its loose spray attack. What landmarks do you use to find this safe spot?

Well, I'd be lying if I said I can pull it off 100%, but it's still easier than dodging. It's sort of instinctual, but you can see how low the wing goes once while you go up there, so keep your eye on that spot. Also, the hiding spot is not that small; although I've never tried it, I'm sure you can just tap down as you need to and still avoid it...

Oh, and I think I'm going to update my site soon. I won't have all the 1-2 stages or any of the 1-3 stages, but I'm pretty sure I at least have 1-4 down.

[jyoung]

Not a whole lot to say other than I'm still getting schooled by this game and can't seem to pass 1-4 without going bomb crazy. I just can't dodge that Bird boss and his crazy bullet patterns when I use anyone but Aine. However, when I'm using Aine I can't get close enough to do a sword attack and his arrows are very hard to aim when your busy dodging a hailstorm of bullets.

So, I'm thinking about switching over to Morrigan because of her homing lasers, small size, fast speed and solid close range attack.

Also, congrats to Triple Lei.