PC Games more Addicting than Console Games?

[opa-opa]

Why do u guys hate PC games?

What kind of games do u like then?

[MechDeus]

Mods are always great. Nothing breathes life back into a game like a good mod. CS, quite possibly the most-played game on the net in recent years, was not even a full game, it was a user-made full conversion mod for HL. Quake 3, as is, is very good but not clearly the best, until you add some mods to it. Akimbo is one of the smallest mods ever that adds so much crazy action it's insane. Or how about Bid For Power, which while not the greatest game in the world, is still the best DBZ game out. And it's nothing more then a user-made mod for Q3.

In regards to patches:

Many developers use them as a crutch, but just as many use them to improve a game. Take Raven and JKII for example: They released a number of patches that did jack squat for the regular game, and simply retooled and balanced the multiplayer. It took them a few times (mainly because every time they thought they covered something, the community would figure out how to exploit it), but it shows something that can't be done with console games. Many FPS' do this, a continuous tweaking so as to help balance.

The average PC RPG is longer, has more areas, more characters, a deeper storyline, than the average console RPG.

And they tend to have add-ons released, with tons more stuff to play with that builds on the original.

[NeoZeedeater]

Hating PC games in general is a definite sign of a closed-minded gamer. I'm not saying that everyone has to love every genre but I find it hard to believe that many console gamers can't find even one PC genre they like.

There is more variety in PC gaming than the surface view will tell you. Conversely, many PC gamers think console gaming is nothing but sports and fighting games because this is all they see at surface level.

[CypherUppercut]

I agree with NeoZeedeater...

If a game is good, I'll be there. I'll play it regardless of the platform that its on. With all the talk about console wars, people tend to be quick to put down one gaming platform for another. The PC is just as viable as the PS2, Xbox, Gamecube, etc. All I care about is is having fun and entertaining games. I don't care about one game being better than another or or some hardware being the strongest out there. All I know is that I want to play all the good games out there.

[cigsthecat]

"Why do u guys hate PC games?"

Because they're terrible.

"What kind of games do u like then?"

2D platformers, run 'n gun, vertical shooters, japanese style console RPGs, anything with amazing colors and design.

"There is more variety in PC gaming than the surface view will tell you."

Examples please.

"Hating PC games in general is a definite sign of a closed-minded gamer. I'm not saying that everyone has to love every genre but I find it hard to believe that many console gamers can't find even one PC genre they like."

No, it's a sign that the gamer doesn't like what he sees on the PC game shelf, and never has. And out of the PC genres (strategy, MMMMOORPG, FPS, FPS, and FPS, I don't see anything I'd want to play. It has nothing to do with hating PC games for the sake of being cool; it has everything to do with hating the games I see released for it. If there was something I wanted to play I'd buy it.

[MechDeus]

Originally posted by cigsthecat
2D platformers, run 'n gun, vertical shooters, japanese style console RPGs, anything with amazing colors and design.

For platformers, definately check out Abuse (possibly the only 2D platformer designed with the mouse in mind, and it works beautifully) and Zyclunt (interesting, though not wonderful).

In regards to run 'n gun, does the type count (i.e. third-person, side-scroller, etc.)? Mafia fits that quite well.

Japanese-style RPGs is an area definately lacking on the PC. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Septerra Core, but I didn't play too far because of the hideous pre-rendered graphics. Then there's the more action-based Silver, but that also ended up on DC later on.

For shooters, there's way more then I could possibly mention. I'm sure you've seen the large freeware shooter site posted on here before, and quite a few others floating around.

Amazing colors and design? I'll have to search a bit (and that's a bit vague), but I'm sure I can find at least some to your liking, although Blade Runner is an excellent game with both of those. Have you ever tried Gridrunner?

Aside from shooters, the PC is a bit sparse in those areas (actually, there are tons of platformers, but very few A+ titles), mainly due to the focus of controller (also why many PC-designed titles don't fare well on consoles). Another title which I'm not sure if you might like is Project Nomads, that was recently released. It revolves around building your own floating island base, complete with turrets that you must man to shoot down others looking to steal your stuff. You can get an airplane hanger and fly around dogfighting, which is pretty fun, although I haven't played too far into it yet.

[opa-opa]

2D platformers, run 'n gun, vertical shooters, japanese style console RPGs, anything with amazing colors and design.

2D platformers and vertical shooters? So you mean there hasn't been any games you've liked since 1998? (just kidding)

Why do you limit yourself to just a few types of games? You are only depriving yourself of a lot of enjoyment....

[MechDeus]

Originally posted by opa-opa
Why do you limit yourself to just a few types of games? You are only depriving yourself of a lot of enjoyment....

He's not "limiting" himself, that simply happens to be what he likes. Not everyone will like everything, that's how things are. I certainly don't.

[opa-opa]

If he only likes 2D platformers and shooters, I'm just surprised he hasn't already given up on gaming completely a long time ago.

[Jimmy Carter]

My take:

The PC is much more time consuming do to the nature of it's games. They generally fall into the lines of strategy, FPS or sim. I'm just speaking from my PC experience here, these are the three types of games I play.

Strategy and sim games demand a lot more thought and demand that you pay attention to every little thing going on. This completely takes you out of the "real world" and puts you into the game world. A very, very effective way to do so, if you think about it. Age of Mythology and next year, Sim City 4 will be on my PC. These will both drain time from me (actually, I have AOM, it rocks). (on the console, FFT ripped my time up, as well, but it proves the in depth strategy point)

FPS games work so well on PC and become so addicting because the PC interface works ... best. One secret to immersion in games is to give the player such a comfortable, easy-to-use interface that they forget they're using an interface. They feel as if they are directly working the game evironment with their mind because the notion of the mouse/keyboard ceases to exist. But this can work in consoles, as well. Goldeneye and Halo have extremely well designed control interfaces and work in much the same way to immerse as the PC.

And third, this applies to me, my PC is in my office (away from the house). I'm totally away from family and can just relax and play. No bothersome people; no other noises. Nothing.

So, that's my take. PC games suck more time from me but it appears to be that console games are made for more of an arcade environment and instant pleasure. I love both equally (been playing PSO/Mario Party 4/Earthbound lately).