Age Matters

[Cafeman]

It's not the age; it's the mileage.

You can still get that childish youthful joy even when you as incredibly old as Haoh. (personal note -- I'm 1 yr behind you).

I think it has a lot to do with complexity of your life, just like was mentioned. When you don't have time to really sit down and play for a few uninterrupted hours, or when life's crappy old problems are always in the back of your mind, it's tougher to enjoy any entertainment, IMHO.

I had giggle fits all through my 20's playing several games. My 30's haven't been so great though -- probably not entire the games' fault.

[Josh]

Originally posted by teenwolf
Ask anyone who has played through most of the great rpg's around and you will find that almost no one would rate FF7 in the top ten...

I have played through most of the "great RPGs", and FFVII is still my favorite RPG ever. Hands down. No contest.

Originally posted by teenwolf
...it clearly was a substandard Final Fantasy to anyone who didn't play it as one of their first rpg's and who has played through enough rpg's to know quality when they play it...

No. Wrong again. FFVII was amazing.

Just because you think something is true, doesn't necessarily make it so.

[gamevet]

Originally posted by TracerBullet
*cough*ultima*cough*

ºTracer

*cough,"The Bard's tale" cough, cough "Phantasie"cough*

[Jeremy]

I found FF VII to be an amazing game. I'm glad that it ushered in the RPG genre to the masses.

[gamevet]

Originally posted by DacaZ
I can still get as excited about games as I could back when I was a wee one in 70s and early 80s.

My first gaming machine was a Commodore PET computer. I had a bunch of homebrew cassette games for it, which mostly involved text adventures and ASCII code. I spent a ton of time on that machine, I wish I still had it just for shits and giggles.

I can remember the feeling of glee when I got my 2600 and oh how I remember when 2600 Pac Man was released. Yeah, it was a steaming pile, but I was probably around 11 when it was released and I didn't know any better.

The only aspect of gaming as an older person I think may help to lose a little magic is the supply end of things. If I see a game I want, I usually buy it. Back in the day I had to either pester my parents for it or save up for weeks on end to buy a 2600 or Intellivision cartridge. Getting a brand new game back in those days was certainly a more uncommon experience for me when compared to today.

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I remember using a PET computer in the 5th grade. The machine had a whopping 4K of memory and everyone was so excited at getting a chance to play with it. I remember Tandy making a computer that looked just like it and it also had 4K of memory.


I got Pac-Man for my 2600 on my birthday. I played the game like crazy and did'nt care if it was arcade perfect. The tunnels at the top and bottom of the screen made me wonder why they did it that way, but I was still happy to play. I just appreciated the games more, because it would be a long time til I got another game to play. Hard to believe those games sold for more than $30 in those days. By today's standards, it would be like buying a game for $80.

[Omni]

Originally posted by teenwolf
Apparently you forgot to read the post I made right after this. And my first post was a comment on younger gamers for the most part not knowing about or not being interested in older games. I can totally understand how someone could feel very nostalgic about their first rpg, my comment was in regards to the quality of it compared to other rpg's though. Ask anyone who has played through most of the great rpg's around and you will find that almost no one would rate FF7 in the top ten, it clearly was a substandard Final Fantasy to anyone who didn't play it as one of their first rpg's and who has played through enough rpg's to know quality when they play it...


HS is a cake walk, it sucked though, four wasted years down the drain. hurray for the mass compulsory school system!...

I haven't played through that many RPGs but I still know quality when I see it, and I think you've overestimated your stats on older gamer's impressions of FF7. It's a well respected game that just garners alot of hate from selected people who are resentful of the game for whatever reason, the primary one being, IMO, the leap from 2D to 3D. Same thing happened with Mario 64. Some people just couldn't handle Mario as a 3D character moving around in 3D worlds because they were so used to him as 2D dude in his 2D world, not worrying about what was to the right or left of him. When you're used to something as one thing and it totally does a 180 and becomes another, sometimes it's hard to adjust and that in itself can be the difference between someone liking a game and someone not. Of course there are those who just don't like the gameplay or story, which I'll just never understand. It all goes back to the fact that something new is alot better than something that you've experienced many times. That goes for anything in life, and video games are no exception.

[Mzo]

FF7 was a very, very good game, and a lot of fun to play through, but it's not better than FF6.

[gamevet]

Originally posted by Cloud
I haven't played through that many RPGs but I still know quality when I see it, and I think you've overestimated your stats on older gamer's impressions of FF7. It's a well respected game that just garners alot of hate from selected people who are resentful of the game for whatever reason, the primary one being, IMO, the leap from 2D to 3D. Same thing happened with Mario 64. Some people just couldn't handle Mario as a 3D character moving around in 3D worlds because they were so used to him as 2D dude in his 2D world, not worrying about what was to the right or left of him. When you're used to something as one thing and it totally does a 180 and becomes another, sometimes it's hard to adjust and that in itself can be the difference between someone liking a game and someone not. Of course there are those who just don't like the gameplay or story, which I'll just never understand. It all goes back to the fact that something new is alot better than something that you've experienced many times. That goes for anything in life, and video games are no exception.

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The difference is, that Mario 64 played totally a lot different from it's predessesors. Final Fantasy VII played a lot like the Final Fantasies of the past, but with upgraded graphics and a storyline that has'nt really chaange that much. Bad guy wants to rule the world, young guy finds himself in the middle of the event and becomes the savior of the world. Final Fantasy VII is a great game, but what it provides is'nt that much different from what earlier Final Fantasy games had offered before. Gamers new to the RPG market became inamorated with Final Fantasy VII, more so because of the cinematic presentation it offered, not because it offered better gameplay from games earlier on in the series. I prefer Final Fantasy II's storyline over that of Final Fantasy VII.



Look at a game like Final Fantasy X. Did it not offer a lot of the same game you played on the PSX?

[Josh]

Originally posted by gamevet
Look at a game like Final Fantasy X. Did it not offer a lot of the same game you played on the PSX?

Yes. And I loved it because of it.

[Omni]

Originally posted by gamevet
Look at a game like Final Fantasy X. Did it not offer a lot of the same game you played on the PSX?

How so? And by the "game you played on the PSX" do you mean FF7, 8, and 9 collectively or just 7. Just wondering because I really can't see how FFX provided the same game.