Grandia

[sggg]

Originally posted by BonusKun
Burg,
I played the PS version but I also played the Saturn version 1st.
The translation was spot on for the PS but the game wasn't made or written to be run on the PlayStation. It was a sloppy piece of shit port.

Look, the PSX rev might not be as good as the original Saturn version. There is no denying that. I am sure the Saturn version has many advantages such as the dialogue, voice acting, and graphical perfection.. but there really was nothing wrong with the PSX version that detracted from the experience. I played the PSX version and I loved it. It's one of my top 3 games of all time. I know several other people who loved it just as much. If it was "so bad" then people would not have been able to enjoy it that much. I didn't notice a single problem and it's only when compared to the Saturn version when there are some things you can nitpick about.

If Grandia PSX was the only version that came out I don't think anyonee would havee bitched about any of this. The game is fine. No, it's great.

The Saturn version is clearly the best and I am still a bit heartbroken that it was never officially released for Saturn in NA because I was hoping for that for a long time.... but the PSX version, while not perfect, is way more than adequate.

Like I said, one of my top 3 games ever...

Originally posted by taloony
I'd imagine he's referring to the numerous RPG's that don't make their way over here because they are crap. How many games get released in a year in Japan? How many of those make it over here? A good percentage that don't make it are probably shit, though I haven't, of course, played them all.

Come on now, I think we all know plenty of good and great games from all genres that didn't make it to NA. Quality is not always the deciding factor. Many times games don't make it over simply because of their style or some other strange reason. Sometimes the fact that NA gamers simply don't buy certain games in significant enough #s to justify porting the game. That does not mean the game is any less good. I'd personally love to have English language versions of Mr Driller, the new Klonoa games, Fire Emblem, Grandia for Saturn (!), about 30 other Saturn games, Cardfighter's Clash 2, Segagaga, Napple Tale, Magical Vacation, the Let's Make a Pro Soccer/Baseball Series, and countless other games (including many I've never heard of or can't remember because they're inaccesable to me)... way more than I can list. There are plenty of import game enthusiasts here who have way more import games than I do (I only have around 10 so far) and I think it's pretty silly to say that they only like crappy games that are not good enough for NA. There are plenty of quality games released only in Japanese.

[Tsubaki]

Originally posted by taloony
I'd imagine he's referring to the numerous RPG's that don't make their way over here because they are crap. How many games get released in a year in Japan? How many of those make it over here? A good percentage that don't make it are probably shit, though I haven't, of course, played them all.

While you're right that a lot of crap gets filtered, there are plenty of gems left in Japan too. You win some, you lose some. Ultimately, though, even if all the crappy games came here, you could choose not to buy them. But nothing short of importing can allow you to play some of the greatest games out there.

And diffusionx simply stated When I say "crappy" or "piece of shit", Im referring to RPGs in Japanese that you rave about that nobody else here plays because they dont pretend to be Japanese, so it's not about the crappy Japanese games. It's either about 1) a ridiculous claim that things he hasn't played are automatically bad or 2) he's got a vendetta against me, which is totally fine. I don't like him either. But I'm not making all these baseless accusations trying to provoke him.

[Diff-chan]

Originally posted by Tsubaki
I don't like him either.

Thats good to hear. I dont like you at all. If it wasn't blatantly obvious already.

[Yoshi]

Can't we all just get along?

[burgundy]

It's beginning to look a lot like Fight Club...

[MechDeus]

All I Want For Fight Club Are My Two Front Teeth.
The Night Before Fight Club.
O Little Town Of Fight Club
Rudolph The Fight Club Reindeer.

C'mon, get in the seasonal mood!

[Chakan]

I've been studying Japanese seriously for about two weeks now, spending only about an hour or two a day. It hasn't been that hard for me, actually. The only previous experience I've had in learning a foreign language is a single year of Spanish in an American High School.

I think it's just as worthwhile to learn as a language as any other. Hell, as fucking video game enthusiast, I see shitloads of reasons to learn it. Soon enough, I'll be delving into Japanese-only websites and other publications where I can learn more about cool shit I've never heard about before here in the States.

Hey, wait a second, I've already started doing that. :P

[Tommy Tallarico]

God, Diff, you're so un-hardcore it's not even funny. Learn Japanese, play obscure, shitty RPGs, and become a virgin again, and then maybe you can hang with Tsubaki. Pfft.

[dog$]

Right, because the only Japanese games that aren't released in America are definitely within the RPG genre.

Poor Tsubaki.
Had he known he was going to face up against DiffusionX & His Cocksucking Crew, he probably wouldn't have bothered. Then again I'm not his attorney.

[Ranji]

What an obnoxious brew of xenophobia and proud anti-intellectualism.