This is why America Owns

[MVS]

I guess we'll be the owningest nation on the charred Earth in a couple years.

1st Iraq and now this...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/korea/arti...865094,00.html

N Korea threatens to 'destroy world'

John Gittings in Hong Kong and Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington
Tuesday December 24, 2002
The Guardian

Desperate efforts began yesterday to head off the growing Korean crisis as Pyongyang and Washington continued to talk up the tension.
The UN has confirmed that North Korea has carried out its threat to remove UN seals and dismantle monitoring cameras at a laboratory used to produce weapons-grade plutonium.

Senator Joseph Biden, the outgoing chair of the Senate foreign relations committee, warned that North Korea's plan to restart a programme for plutonium extraction could allow it to produce bombs "within months".

A spokesman for the Vienna - based International Atomic Energy Agency said: "There isn't any legitimate purpose for the facility other than separating plutonium from spent fuel."

Pyongyang has issued a series of threats, including one to "destroy the earth" if the US resorted to nuclear war against it. South Korea's president, Kim Dae-jung, and the president-elect, Roh Moo-hyun, sought to calm the mood by saying they wanted a peaceful resolution.

While Russia expressed concern at the North's weekend announcement, the deputy foreign minister warned the US not to aggravate the crisis.

But the US state department yesterday rejected Pyongyang's insistence that the crisis can be solved if the US signs a treaty of non-aggression. "We will not bargain or offer inducements for North Korea to live up to the treaties and agreements it has signed," a spokesman said.

US intelligence sources were quoted by the BBC as saying they believe "North Korea may already have a small number of nuclear bombs and the material to make a few more".

Mr Biden said the crisis was "a greater danger immediately to US interests ... than Saddam Hussein."

Yesterday, the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, dismissed such concerns. "We are capable of fighting two major regional conflicts," he said.

"We're capable of winning decisively in one and swiftly defeating in the case of the other, and let there be no doubt about it."

He said Washington chose to pursue a diplomatic strategy against North Korea for the moment, as that crisis was still at a relatively early stage.

The North Korean media, which is never short of a fiery turn of phrase, has given Bush administration hardliners all the material they may want.

The communist party's newspaper Workers' Daily declared that "the army and people of the DPRK are fully ready to mercilessly strike the bulwark of US imperialist aggressors" - implying that they could hit targets in the US.

"There can be no earth without Korea," it said. "The army and people of the DPRK will destroy the earth if the enemies dare make a nuclear strike at it. This is their do-or-die spirit."

[TK]

Originally posted by taloony
Ahh, well I suppose I can see that. I don't agree totally with what 88 was saying up there, I genuinely feel bad when I see something like that, but I think your racism comment was way off base. You're perhaps a bit to defensive about this, really.

How was I being defensive?

[Shine]

These guys are enjoying this too much. Every time the blow someone up the yell bang. WTF is wrong with the military?

[Josh]

Originally posted by ShineAqua
These guys are enjoying this too much. Every time the blow someone up the yell bang. WTF is wrong with the military?

Nothing is wrong with the military. If I was firing a fucking cannon I would probably be yelling "bang" or something too.

[Tracer]

I'd say "CROM!"

ºTracer

[taloony]

Originally posted by TK
How was I being defensive?

I was merely referring to the way you went all out in defending your point of view, that's all.

Originally posted by TracerBullet
I'd say "CROM!"

ºTracer

Shouldn't that be station saying that?

[Tracer]

He didn't know alot about Conan: The Barbarian till I bought the Special Edition DVD

I just never pray to him... I have no tounge for it.

ºTracer

[Shine]

Originally posted by 88mph
Nothing is wrong with the military. If I was firing a fucking cannon I would probably be yelling "bang" or something too.

All I'm syaing is that they seem to be taking way too much joy in the killing of others. The U.S. millitary is about protecting U.S. citizens from threats both foreign and domestic, not about blowing up stuff and leaving a bloody trail behind you, and enjoying every kill along the way.

[MVS]

Uhhh..no.

The US military is about destroying opposing forces by any means necessary, while taking as little damage as possible and creating as much damage as possible.

Why the military goes in, might be politically justified as you say, but the reality is that they are there to make the other people stop fighting, however that be done.

[Shine]

Originally posted by mattvanstone
Uhhh..no.

The US military is about destroying opposing forces by any means necessary, while taking as little damage as possible and creating as much damage as possible.

Why the military goes in, might be politically justified as you say, but the reality is that they are there to make the other people stop fighting, however that be done.

So then they should enjoy killing as much as possible right? That would make them monsters, and I want nothing to do with an army of monsters.