Official Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance thread

[dakidski]

GohanX - ah ok, thanks. I also played the Xbox version back in the days, it was pretty good. I don't remember the slowdown people mention in some threads.

The ps2 version of Substance came with the 'Document of Metal Gear Solid 2'. It's quite stunning and I spend hours yesterday, just exploring the scenery in free 3d. Also, the ps2 version has a skateboarding game, which isn't on the Xbox version.

http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mgs2_do...ish/index.html

This month is MGS month for me. So far I played MGS3, MGS2, Twin Snakes and now MGS2:Substance.

[GohanX]

MGS2 runs worse on the xbox.

Truth. Better played on PS2, but I can't force myself to spend the $5 on the PS2 version and complete all the shit again.

Dakidski-You're playing them out of order, WTF?

I played them the opposite way, good stuff, but I can't play MGS3 then go back to 2 or 1, I just want to keep playing MGS3 and slash some throats. If I haven't played it for a while, then Twin Snakes and 2 is all good fun.

[dakidski]

I didn't plan on playing them all, it just happened. I keep finding myself, trying to use the camera from mgs3 in mgs2:s. I didn't like the throatslashing actually, I much prefer breaking their necks.

[kingoffighters]

You guys should just grab each other's crotch and get it over with.

[GohanX]

I'd much prefer to knock him down, get in a crawling position, crawl on top of him and wiggle the joystick like a madman.

C'mon, you know you've done that in the game at least once.

[kingoffighters]

I will admit to no such thing.

[dakidski]

This sucks. The old ranking website is no more. I wanted to type in my clear code. From an old thread, I can tell Bahn regged.

http://www.konamijpn.com/mgs2_sub/

[Johnny Undaunted]

Well, my question wasn't anything serious. I was just wondering if a vanilla MGS2 savegame worked on MGS2:Substance. (both ps2) It didn't. That clues me they are not completely identical, and some code was changed. So I was wondering what differences, contentwise, there was between the two versions?

I noticed that Snake can get a cold on the tanker chapter in Substance. I don't remember that from the regular edition. Also, wikipedia tells me that Substance "includes a new infrared effects for the thermal goggles and a new set of dog tags".

On top of my head:
* New infrared effect for the Thermal Goggles (they use actual heat vision instead of the red and redder effect used in MGS1)
* The FHM posters and magazines are replaced by ones from a different agency.
* E-Extreme difficulty setting.
*When you place the unconscious soldiers inside the lockers during the beginning of the Plant chapter, they remain unconscious until the elevator arrives. It doesn't happen that way in the original game.
* You can get a silencer for Snake's USP during the Tanker chapter (but only during subsequent playthroughs).
* A new cut scene which shows Raiden through the Big Shell's oil fence after Emma is stabbed by Vamp.
* You can choose between the 2001 and 2002 set of Dog Tags.
* Snake and Raiden will start wearing sunglasses during the third playthrough and every odd-numbered playthrough after that.

Most of these changes were actually made for the overseas versions of the original game before they made their way to the US with Substance.

[kingoffighters]

All this talk actually makes me want to play MGS2s. But then, common sense prevails.

[dakidski]

Johnny: thanks for the info.