A Legacy Company

[Yoshi]

Originally posted by LordPerrin
You rattled off a great deal of franchises there that do not, in fact, matter. With the exception of the ones I bolded, they are either not available on any home console this generation as yet, or do not in actuality have any sales counter stroke, regardless of how much you may personally like them. Good job, you managed to point out a whopping four relevant franchises the Cube is missing. (And that's because I'm giving Castlevania the benefit of the doubt; its sales potential with current mainstream console players is currently unknown. We may find out in November that you actually had but three.)

If the PlayStation 2 had only franchises that "in actuality have any sales counter stroke," I'd be better off, especially if you throw Castlevania out of that list. I could have saved a lot of money by not buying 2 PS2s.

[RoleTroll]

I think Nintendo is too small to compete. Right now, Microsoft is too concerned about making quarterly numbers to really even attempt to compete with the Xbox. If the big boys actually begin a price war, Nintendo will find it difficult to compete.

[Spike]

Nintendo has always had my gaming dollar. Games like Made in Wario, Cubivore, and Animal Crossing are the reason for this.

I love the fact that they try to innovate. Sony, the market leader, is content to release sequel after sequel, and while I understand how these games might appeal to other gamers, they are not for me. Nintendo takes their popular franchises, and changes them. Look at Mario Kart: Double Dash. They are willing to completely change the game. Whether this succeeds or fails, they at least have the balls to try these things, even though they are not the market leader. Look at Sony's GT series. How do they innovate? By making the game's graphics more realistic. For me, it is all about fun. Nintendo makes the most fun games on the market.

Also, in regards to next round, I think Sony's going to be real surprised. I'll go so far as to say they will keep their number one position, but I can guarantee that they won't have the same lopsided victory that they had this round. They've already lost console exclusivity of the GTA series, hence the "debuts exclusively on PS2" line. And don't try to tell me they only mean the PC version, because GTA3 and VC both came onto PC and Sony still called them "exclusive".

[xS]

Erm... Sony has been a much more innovative company over the last 5-6 years.

Sure, alot of their stuff never makes it to the states... and there's no way that their quality can touch Nintendos but they have alot of quirky titles under their belt.

Ore No Ryuori
Vib Ribbon
Parrapa
Moji Ribbon
Ape Escape
ICO
Jumping Flash
Devil Dice
etc,etc.

[epmode]

Originally posted by Spike
Nintendo has always had my gaming dollar. Games like Made in Wario, Cubivore, and Animal Crossing are the reason for this.

I love the fact that they try to innovate. Sony, the market leader, is content to release sequel after sequel, and while I understand how these games might appeal to other gamers, they are not for me.

complain about sony if you like, but don't say that they don't innovate. sony's internal teams developed ico, ape escape and parappa, among other very original games. (edit: as xS just pointed out)

i love when nintendo gets creative (wario ware is probably my favorite nintendo game released in the last year or so), but you have to admit that they've taken a step back in this department.

[xS]

It's unlikely that Nintendo will win the next console war, unless they change their whole strategy. They should reduce their liscensing fees if they haven't already, and give us a release shcedule that doesn't have us waiting 4 months for a decent title.

I really don't think that they've recovered from the beating the Genesis gave them.

Looking back in retrospective, I doubt that they would even win the console wars in the domestic market if FF7 was an N64 game. They lacked the business acumen to market the game.... they had the rights to all of Squares stuff in the previous generation and none of it got the push that it deserved.

[Spike]

Originally posted by xS
Erm... Sony has been a much more innovative company over the last 5-6 years.

Sure, alot of their stuff never makes it to the states... and there's no way that their quality can touch Nintendos but they have alot of quirky titles under their belt.

Ore No Ryuori
Vib Ribbon
Parrapa
Moji Ribbon
Ape Escape
ICO
Jumping Flash
Devil Dice
etc,etc.

Sony this gen, though they have a commanding lead, refuses to innovate the way they did last gen. Aside from ICO, the games you listed are from the PSX era. But regardless, when you dominate the market the way the PS2 currently is, there should be alot of innovation coming from the company. I see none of this from Sony. Third-parties don't count because their wares could go anywhere.

Nintendo, while having a fraction of the market that Sony has, is willing to take their franchises and try different things. Mario Kart: Double Dash reinvents the Kart genre. Other developers continuously copied Mario Kart and couldn't offer anything new to the genre, but it comes back to Nintendo to reinvent it. It'll be funny to see just how soon the compeitors, not Sony or Microsoft per se, but just any other developers incorporate these concepts into their own Kart games.

[MVS]

Well, the great thing about doing shitty in a competitive market, is that there is no place to go but up.

Increase for a bit, peak in summer, downhill again.

[xS]

ICO and Moji Ribbon are part of this generation, FYI. And then there's a new game from the ICO team.

It's nice to see that they are trying to do something new in the Kart genre, but much of their lineup hasn't changed much from the 64 bit generation.

And besides, Sony doesn't rely on it's internal development teams all that much. 3rd parties like Sega and Konami do the job for them.

[MVS]

Originally posted by Spike
Mario Kart: Double Dash reinvents the Kart genre. Other developers continuously copied Mario Kart and couldn't offer anything new to the genre, but it comes back to Nintendo to reinvent it. It'll be funny to see just how soon the compeitors, not Sony or Microsoft per se, but just any other developers incorporate these concepts into their own Kart games.

Putting 2 people on a Kart is re-inventing the Genre?

What's next?

Nintendo re-invents the golf genre by putting ball washers in it?