Muslim woman sues to wear veil in driver's license photo

[Melf]

Originally posted by Almaci
I know and Melf is an idiot.

You have extremely poor taste when it comes to humor, as someone with any intelligence wouldn't use such a word even in jest. If calling you on your insensitivity makes me an idiot, then fine.

[MVS]

I think we, as a nation, need to amend the constitution, and add in: The right to sue for really stupid shit and probably win.

[Shine]

I agree that she shouldn't be allowed to wear her veil in her license photo, however they are going about it the wrong way. In the wake of the 9-11 attaks many states immediatly moved to prevent the right to remain veiled in license photos. To suddenly disallow a right that had been afforded them by calling them potential terrorists is self defeating. It comes across as racist and will likely lose this case for the state. They should have never been allowed to wear the veils in the first place however this isn't the time for hindsight. If they make the simple argument that this has more to do with preventing the ID's from being used fraudulantly than terrorism then they'll likely win this case. As for the aforementioned hindsight, well, that's always 20/20.

[burgundy]

Nail on head. I think the state should just admit that it was really stupid to permit veiled photos and assert that it has corrected that error. The terrorist threat argument is weak, but it isn't fatal either - it's not like Jews can wear veils but not Muslims. It's just a coincidence that the class of people who are likely to wear veils is also the class from which terrorists are most likely to come.

[Shine]

Originally posted by Almaci
...sandnigger...

I hope that was used in jest as a jab at those who would actually use such termanology.

[Hero]

Originally posted by James
This is very easily solved, so of course it'll drag on forever- driver's id is for identification. No picture, no id. Simple. But this has been discussed already and everyone is pretty much in agreement on it.

The thing that gets me is that the state falls back on fear or terrorism. Again. Guys, get over it. We had one terrorist attack in the US from insane religious zealots. Count them, one. No veils were used because nobody was stupid enough to try. This isn't about terrorism, it's about a stupid bitch. Stop pretending the boogeyman is at the door with a knife in one paw and a bazooka in the other. It's gotten old and we don't believe you any more.

James

My line of thinking was, you can't identify someone just by their eyes, so a veiled ID defeats the function of an ID. Simple as that.

Originally posted by ShineAqua
I hope that was used in jest as a jab at those who would actually use such termanology.

No, more like sarcasm on such a level that would polarize anyone who came within 5 miles of even thinking things Ali didn't think were right.

At least, I hope is was sacasm and he doesn't actually believe all people who don't think like him think like that.

[James]

Yeah, that's what I meant. Blame it on a long work day with no real sleep beforehand. Insert the word "identifiable" between "No" and "picture" if you would...

James

[Almaci]

Originally posted by ShineAqua
I hope that was used in jest as a jab at those who would actually use such termanology.

Of course it was, im a Muslim myself and was born in the region(or pretty closeby in turkey)

[Space Pirate Roberts]

Originally posted by burgundy
If not, the protection is all-encompassing and catastrophic. Personal beliefs do not equal religious doctrine. If they did, I would believe in Burgandism, which does not permit the paying of taxes.

Wrong. You apply the same basic litmus test as any other protected right: your rights end where they start interfering with someone else's. This prevents ludicrous abuses such as your 'Burgandism' and this woman's idiocy, while at the same time protecting views outside some judge's narrow-minded idea of 'mainstream religion'.

[Yoshi]

"Hello, Miss DMV employee. I would like to apply for a driver's license. However, I am a believer in Assbackwardsism. Thus, all pictures that are taken of me must really be of my next door neighbor. It is quite clearly spelled out in our holy book, The Moron. If you fail to observe my religious beliefs by taking old Bill's picture, I will be forced to commence legal action. Afterall, the only custom I am willing to follow while I am in America is filing frivolous lawsuits."