Shinobi video

**sggg** · 30 Jun 2003, 02:54 PM

That was impressive... but not that impressive. I had not thought to just wait and wait and wait and wait for that many ribbons to appear. I would have been much more impressed if he had taken all the ribbons out personally - instead of using magic. Plus, it was not a full tate because he gave Hiroko a tiny bit of damage earlier. I don't know why he did that - it was a waste.

Impressive, but not "perfect". Makes me want to fire the game up and go for a real perfect tate kill.

**Josh** · 30 Jun 2003, 02:54 PM

That would be amazing if I had any idea what the shit was going on.

Never played Shinobi...

**Omni** · 30 Jun 2003, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by sggg
That was impressive... but not that impressive. I had not thought to just wait and wait and wait and wait for that many ribbons to appear.

Well there's no other way to do it. The only reason I thought it was nearly impossible was cuz I thought you needed way more ribbons than that to get a full tate off.

Originally posted by sggg
I would have been much more impressed if he had taken all the ribbons out personally - instead of using magic. Plus, it was not a full tate because he gave Hiroko a tiny bit of damage earlier. I don't know why he did that - it was a waste.

I agree about the magic and the useless attacks at the beginning. The first thing I thought when he did that was "Well now it's not really a one hit tate" - but it was really so negligible that it can be ignored.

It'd be funny if that little damage that he gave him was actually necessary in order to finish him off with the tate.

The only hard part about not using magic to kill the ribbons would be having to kill all of them really fast, and having to remember where they all were. I agree that that would have been way better, but just actually seeing that it can be done is pretty cool in my eyes.

Originally posted by sggg
Impressive, but not "perfect". Makes me want to fire the game up and go for a real perfect tate kill.

If you can do it without using magic, I'll send you something shiny.

**sggg** · 30 Jun 2003, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by OmniGear
Well there's no other way to do it. The only reason I thought it was nearly impossible was cuz I thought you needed way more ribbons than that to get a full tate off.

Same here... that's what I said above (before the thread was bumped and I saw the video).

The only hard part about not using magic to kill the ribbons would be having to kill all of them really fast, and having to remember where they all were. I agree that that would have been way better, but just actually seeing that it can be done is pretty cool in my eyes.

Killing them all "manually" really fast would have been incredibly impressive. That's why I was a bit disappointed with the way he did it. It was still very impressive... but let's just say there is plenty of room for improvement.

As for remembering where the ribbons were, that's a non-issue if you use the lock-on. It takes you directly to each enemy, you just need to make sure you do them in the right order and progress toward Hiroko...

If you can do it without using magic, I'll send you something shiny.

I don't know if I could.... what I do know is that the more I played the more skilled I got and a lot of seemingly impossible things became much easier. With practice I don't think a one-hit tate on Hiroko would be that hard. Especially if you waited for that many ribbons to appear. I wonder if a shuriken blast would stun them... it's been a while since I played and I don't remember....

**Werewolf** · 30 Jun 2003, 04:11 PM

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**Omni** · 30 Jun 2003, 04:19 PM

I believe shurikens stun the ribbons, but I could be wrong.

One thing that pissed me off a few times when trying to beat him: I'd kill all the ribbons on screen and have the tate setup, but then Hiruko would be in such a bad place for attack that hitting him, especially before the charge runs out, was almost impossible.

So even if you managed to kill all the ribbons in time, you'd have to make sure that Hiruko was in the right place, thus complicating things even more.

But I suppose all things fairly difficult in life are determined by a bit luck, as well as skill.

**MechDeus** · 30 Jun 2003, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by sggg
I had not thought to just wait and wait and wait and wait for that many ribbons to appear.

Hrm, that's what I did for all the bosses. Wait for fodder, and then dash in for the Tate.

Plus, it was not a full tate because he gave Hiroko a tiny bit of damage earlier. I don't know why he did that - it was a waste.

Slashing him kept him moving, which in turn bought more time to get more ribbons while not getting assaulted. You don't want to give a chance for him to perform his own homing teleport dash attack, that thing can rip Hotsuma apart.

**Green** · 30 Jun 2003, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Reno
*Revives thread*

The link in the first post is dead (I believe the guy took down the site because of too many people getting his movies), but I was able to get his entire Shinobi run plus two movies from his final boss fight. The run itself is pretty slick. The way he sets up his tates so that he almost always gets 6 or 7 enemies at once is too impressive, not to mention that he almost always uses the charge attack to finish off the tate, even if he's close to making Akujiki eat away at his life.

The final boss movies are awesome. He tates the final boss, it's really impressive to me since I've never been able to do it like THIS. Check out the link below for that particular fight.

Shinobi - Final Boss Perfect Tate

Holy shit! Any time talk about this game comes up, I make it a point to always talk about how cheap the final boss is. If that's all it takes to off him, then I'm going to give it another shot asap. I swear, though, through the dozens of times I've fought him I've gotten a tate exactly or close to that amount, *sigh*. Thanks alot, Reno.

**sggg** · 30 Jun 2003, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by OmniGear
But I suppose all things fairly difficult in life are determined by a bit luck, as well as skill.

Yes, that is definitely a part of it. You need a bit of luck in how the "field" is arranged. You need to have the ribbons in a compact enough area and Hiroko in position close enough to the final ribbon....

Originally posted by MechDeus
Hrm, that's what I did for all the bosses. Wait for fodder, and then dash in for the Tate.

So did I... I just meant that I never waited for that many ribbons against Hiroko. I would wait for more than one batch though....

Slashing him kept him moving, which in turn bought more time to get more ribbons while not getting assaulted. You don't want to give a chance for him to perform his own homing teleport dash attack, that thing can rip Hotsuma apart.

That's true. It's essential to keep him from doing the dash attack....

But couldn't he have prevented that without slashing him? I have not played in a while so I can't remember exactly, but just coming at him should have been enough to have him back off......

**MechDeus** · 30 Jun 2003, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by sggg
You need to have the ribbons in a compact enough area and Hiroko in position close enough to the final ribbon....

Lead the ribbons. They follow you.

But couldn't he have prevented that without slashing him? I have not played in a while so I can't remember exactly, but just coming at him should have been enough to have him back off......

Naw, he'll still smack you if you don't slash at him. He has no problem with Hotsuma standing there and getting hit.