Run for the hills, here comes the RIAA!

**Shine** · 27 Jun 2003, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by stormy
Just curious, why is it they can't shut Kazaa down? They got Napster

I believe Napster hosted it's own servers, but Kazaa relies on users to create servers. I also think it has something to do with the way Gnetilla (however it's spelled) works.

**Lhadatt** · 27 Jun 2003, 04:28 AM

Originally posted by Mr-K
This sounds like bullshit to me. Besides, how do they find out this info? If it's by the amount of shared MP3s... I won't have to worry about that, since I don't. I think I'll just take from other people then not give back.

They've probably got tools that can hack Kazaa's network and find your IP and amount of stuff shared. They trace your IP back to your ISP, tell them that IP at such and such time was sharing files and then threaten a court order for the info if the ISP doesn't hand it over. Since the Verizon ruling, ISPs are scared that a precident's been set.

Kazaa can't be shut down because it's not run by an American company, thus it can't fall under the DMCA.

Kazaa does host some root servers, but users can become a "supernode," which acts as a server and helps the network scale. I think.

**youandwhosearmy** · 27 Jun 2003, 07:06 AM

Y'know all this can be used against the RIAA so goddamn easily.

So many privacy issues can and will be brought up because of this, and the rambunctious few who have the money to fight back are not going to quit so easily. This is a stupid move on their part because without these people, the majority of which still buy the albums they want to own in the first place, the RIAA will see a dramatic decrease in sales.

If they don't think a lot of people will take it personally enough to boycott the buying of major label CD's in an industry that is fading fast enough that such a boycott might just crumble it, well they have already failed.

They failed to get with the times when it was on the upswing as far as trading music goes, and now they will fail because they don't seem to realize that they cannot survive without joe consumer, who may just take this personally.

Way to go boys, you've managed to shoot yourselves in the stomach while you were recovering from when you shot yourself in the foot.

**Rick** · 27 Jun 2003, 08:22 AM

Just curious, why is it they can't shut Kazaa down? They got Napster

Back in 2001, they music and movie industries threw everything they had at Kazaa, fully prepared to crush it to dust. Kazaa bought time via its infrastructure (as already mention, constructed by thousands of anonymous supernodes) and in January 2002 the Amsterdam-based Kazaa.com dissapeared and reappeared days later. In that few days, the following happened:

-Cofounder Niklas Zennstrom transfered software code to a company called Blastoise, located in a small, tax haven of an island off the coast of Britain.

-Sharman Networks was created and the Kazaa interface was handed over to this company in the small island nation of Vanuatu, where they have an established federal policy that, if desired, guarantees confidentiality of ownership.

-Sharman Networks began operating out of Sydney while running their servers out of Denmark.

-The Kazaa.com domain was register by Australian Firm LEF Interactive.

The result of these few days of activity is total hell for movie companies and the RIAA as they have no clue who to sue or how to go about doing it. If they could've shut Kazaa down they would have done it a couple years ago, but in this brilliant business move, it made it just about impossible. So now they're going to try and crack down on the file-sharers themselves, while Sharman laughs their asses all the way to the bank (advertisers like DirectTV are paying this select few people millions, and they don't have to spend one dime on the content.)

**MVS** · 27 Jun 2003, 11:48 AM

Fuck 'em.

Bring on the free shit.

**Jetman** · 27 Jun 2003, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by cka
Well, I know a guy who knows a guy that's already been fined, so I wouldn't call bullshit in this case.

Really? How much did they fine him? any details?

**Lobo** · 27 Jun 2003, 01:05 PM

As long as the porn industry doesn't start hacking kazaa for IPs, I'm safe.

**ChaoofNee** · 27 Jun 2003, 01:10 PM

I really hate how the RIAA thinks they can do whatever the fuck they want...
...oh, wait. They can.
The RIAA has become the "heroic" vigilante group saving the millionaire record company execs from the terrible consumers who'd rather use their money for stupid things like "food" and "board" rather than their almighty music.
Fuck 'em.
I dunno about you guys, but I refuse to buy any CD over fourteen bucks. CDs are overpriced and the record industry treats their artists and customers like shit. End of story.