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  1. Madden 2004 *official*

    The game comes out soon so I thought I would make a thread for the few of us that like football. I'm getting pretty hyped again. I told myselfI wasnt buying any football games this year but here I am. I just watched a few videos of the game. It looks pretty good. I think ESPN may look better though. I seen one really damn sweet video though. Its of a team who I really dont like and a player I think is overrated. It was Terrell Owens scoring a TD only then to pull out a sharpie, sign the ball and toss it into the crowd! SWEET! Hopefully the Lambeu Leap makes it this year. I also want to check out the new Playmaker control and see how online has changed. Though online football just makes me want to bash my controller or hit someone.

    Well, just a few more days.


    On another not I was browsing the strategy guide at work. They rank the player in their positions. I was surprise to find out who the BEST QB in the game is. Oddly enough it wasnt Vick.

    #1 BRETT FAVRE! Overall a 98. His attributes were really high except his speed was shit.

    #2 Rich Gannon.

    #3 Donovan McNabb

    #4 Mike Vick. he was decent overall but had INSANE speed. It was 95! Hes one of the fastest players in the game. Thats going to make playing him online a fucking bitch I think.
    Xbox Live- SamuraiMoogle

  2. The Sharpie throw-in rules :P Although it was against by beloved Seahawks. Anyway, Favre a 98? That's ludicrous.

    I'm not surprised that Vick isn't the best, because quite frankly, he isn't in real life either. YET. He will be. It is hard to judge when you're playing for a fairly inept offense. Give him some better players, and you have 31 very scared NFL defenses.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by BoBVila
    The Sharpie throw-in rules :P Although it was against by beloved Seahawks. Anyway, Favre a 98? That's ludicrous.

    I'm not surprised that Vick isn't the best, because quite frankly, he isn't in real life either. YET. He will be.
    I honestly thin Favre is the best QB. His recievers have been pretty bad the last few year yet he still manages 3,000 + yards a year.
    Its funny how Favre has a speed of 50 something though.







    We need to set up online playing with everyone!! I'll LOSE to you all!
    Xbox Live- SamuraiMoogle

  4. I'll be picking Madden up as soon as it is available. I'll also be online that night as well.

    I also checked out all the ratings, and there are a ton of people who are ridiculously overrated. I'm sure everyone online is going to whore Tampa Bay anyway. Fucking fair weather fans.

    Go Bears!

  5. fuck tampa bay. I wont play them. The Bears are actually rated rather well in the game. I was suprised.

    I seen that the Xbox games looks the best and support custom soundtracks. So said one of the developers. Too bad its not online. Thats the only reason I'm getting the PS2 game. That way I at least have the option of playing a game or two with someone. DAMN YOU EA! Making me buy an inferior PS2 game.
    Xbox Live- SamuraiMoogle

  6. if you reserve it with Gamestop youll have the game monday night
    Where I play
    Quote Originally Posted by Dolemite
    I've changed my mind about Korian. Anyone that can piss off so many people so easily is awesome. You people are suckers, playing right into his evil yellow hands.

  7. #7
    Yea thats why i reserved at gamestop, i hope they have it monday. Im dying waiting for it.

    I dont have a PS2 network adaptor yet so i dont know when i'll be online.

  8. I hate the Packers, but Favre deserves his 98 rating. He's a fucking awesome QB.

    Interview with Madden's producer:
    http://xbox.ign.com/articles/432/432718p1.html

    Well, since this is the official thread, here are some player ratings. As you can see, Tampa is fucking stacked:

    QB
    98 Brett Favre GB
    97 Rich Gannon OAK
    95 Mike Vick ATL
    95 Donovan McNabb PHI
    93 Steve McNair TEN
    93 Jeff Garcia SF
    92 Peyton Manning IND
    91 Kurt Warner STL
    91 Drew Bledsoe BUF
    90 Tom Brady NE
    89 Aaron Brooks NO
    88 Dante Culpepper MIN
    88 Chad Pennington NYJ
    87 Trent Green KC
    87 Kerry Collins NYG
    87 Brad Johnson TB
    86 Mark Brunell JAC
    84 Tom Maddox PIT
    84 Jay Fiedler MIA
    83 Matt Hasselback SEA
    83 Marc Bulger STL
    83 David Carr HOU
    82 Jake Plummer DEN
    81 Tim Couch CLE
    81 Kelly Holcomb CLE
    80 Drew Brees SD
    79 Kordell Stewart CHI
    79 Jon Kitna CIN
    79 Joey Harrington DET
    79 Carson Palmer CIN
    78 Trent Dilfer SEA
    78 Jeff Blake ARI
    78 Brian Leftwich JAC
    77 Vinny Testeverde NYJ
    77 Steve Beurlein DEN
    76 Pat Ramsey WAS
    76 Doug Flutie SD
    75 Rodney Peete CAR
    75 Kyle Boller BAL
    75 Jake Delhomme CAR
    75 Chris Redman BAL
    74 Mike McMahon DET
    74 Chris Chandler CHI
    73 Rex Grossman CHI
    73 Chad Hutchinson DAL
    72 Quincy Carter DAL
    71 Gus Ferrotte MIN
    66 Chris Simms TB
    RB
    97 Preist Holmes KC
    97 Rickey Williams MIA
    97 Marshal Faulk STL
    95 LaDanion Tomlinson SD
    93 Corey Dillon CIN
    93 Mike Allstott TB
    92 Clinton Portis DEN
    92 Ahman Green GB
    92 Duece McAlister NO
    92 Lorenzo Neal SD
    91 Curtis Martin NYJ
    91 Shuan Alexander SEA
    90 Fred Taylor JAC
    90 Jim Kliensaucer MIN
    90 Charlie Garner OAK
    88 Jamal Lewis BAL
    88 Edgerrin James IND
    88 Tiki Barber NYG
    88 Eddie George TEN
    87 Stephen Davis CAR
    87 Williamd Henderson GB
    87 Tony Richardson KC
    86 Tavis Henry BUF
    86 Cory Slesinger DET
    86 Rob Konrad MIA
    86 Michael Bennet MIN
    86 Todd Ritchie PHI
    86 Duce Staley PHI
    86 Garrison Hearst SF
    85 James Hodgins ARI
    85 Warrick Dunn ATL
    84 Jerome Bettis PIT
    84 Amos Zereoue PIT
    83 William Green CLE
    83 Mike Anderson DEN
    83 James Stewart DET
    82 Richie Anderson DAL
    82 Marc Edwards JAC
    82 Antwaun Smith NE
    82 Kevin Barlow SF
    81 Emmitt Smith ARI
    81 Anthony Thomas CHI
    81 Fred McCrary NE
    81 Mike Pittman TB
    80 TJ Duckett ATL
    80 Stacy Mack HOU
    80 Terrelle Smith NO
    79 Jamal White CLE
    79 Lamont Jordan NYJ
    79 Zach Crockett OAK
    79 Heath Evans SEA
    78 Marcel Shipp ARI
    78 Greg Comella TEN
    77 Troy Hambrick DAL
    77 Larry Johnson KC
    77 Dorsey Levens NYG
    77 Dan Kreider PIT
    77 Bryan Johnson WAS
    76 Willis McGahee BUF
    76 Sam Gash BUF
    76 Damion Shelton CHI
    76 Trung Canidate WAS
    75 Charles Stackhouse NYG
    75 Correll Buckhalter PHI
    74 Terrell Davis DEN
    74 Dominic Rhodes IND
    74 Moe Williams MIN
    74 Tyrone Wheatley OAK
    74 Brian Westbrook PHI
    73 Howard Marrow BAL
    73 Thomas Jones TB
    72 Ron Dayne NYG
    72 Jared Sowell NYJ
    72 C. Fuamatalala PIT
    71 Brad Hoover CAR
    71 Kevin Faulk NE
    70 Fred Baxter HOU
    68 DeShawn Foster CAR
    67 Michael Wiley DAL
    67 Ontarrio Smith MIN
    67 Brian Mitchell NYG
    66 Lee Suggs CLE
    66 Detron Smith IND
    65 Justin Griffith ATL
    65 Jerimi Johnson CIN
    WR
    99 Marvin Harrison IND
    99 Terrell Owens SF
    98 Randy Moss MIN
    93 Eric Moulds BUF
    93 Hines Ward PIT
    92 Joe Horn NO
    92 Issac Bruce STL
    92 Torry Holt STL
    91 Peerless Price ATL
    91 Amani Toomer NYG
    91 Keyshawn Johnson TB
    90 Marty Booker CHI
    90 Rod Smith DEN
    90 Jerry Rice OAK
    90 Plaxico Burress PIT
    90 David Boston SD
    89 Jimmy Smith JAC
    88 Donald Driver GB
    88 Troy Brown NE
    88 Luv. Coles WAS
    87 Derrick Mason TEN
    86 Tim Brown OAK
    86 Koren Robinson SEA
    86 Rod Gardner WAS
    85 Mushin Mohammad CAR
    85 Charles Johnson CIN
    85 Curtis Conway NYJ
    85 Jerry Porter OAK
    84 Quincy Morgan CLE
    84 Joey Galloway DAL
    84 Charles Rogers DET
    84 Chris Chambers MIA
    84 Dante Stallworth NO
    83 Kevin Johnson CLE
    83 Darrell Jackson SEA
    83 Kenan McCardell TB
    82 Ed McCaffery DEN
    82 Ike Hilliard NYG
    82 Todd Pinkston PHI
    82 Andre Johnson TEX
    81 David Patten NE
    80 Peter Warrick CIN
    80 Ashley Lelie DEN
    80 Chad Bradford HOU
    80 Santana Moss NYJ
    80 Wayne Cherebet NYJ
    80 Antwan Randel El PIT
    80 Tai Streets SF
    79 Travis Taylor BAL
    79 Jake Reed BUF
    79 Kevin Dyson CAR
    79 Dennis Northcutt CLE
    79 Terry Glenn DAL
    79 Antonio Bryant DAL
    79 Eddie Kennison KC
    79 Johnnie Morton KC
    79 Oronde Gadsen MIA
    79 James Thrash PHI
    79 Joe Juravicious TB
    78 Dez White CHI
    78 David Terrell CHI
    78 Andre Davis CLE
    78 Reggie Wayne IND
    77 Brian Finneran ATL
    77 Az Hakim DET
    77 Jabar Gaffney HOU
    77 Deon Branch NE
    77 Tim Dwight SD
    76 Marcus Robinson BAL
    76 Ron Ferguson GB
    76 Bobby Engram SEA
    75 Bryant Johnson ARI
    75 JaVon Walker GB
    74 Bobby Shaw BUF
    74 Dwayne Bates MIN
    74 Drew Bennet TEN
    72 JJ Stokes JAC
    72 Ron Dixon NYG
    71 Alquan Boldin ARI
    70 Terrance Wilkins STL
    66 Tim Carter NYG
    TE
    97 Tony Gonzalez KC
    92 Jeremy Shockey NYG
    90 Todd Heap BAL
    90 Shannon Shapre DEN
    87 Marcus Pollard IND
    86 Bubba Franks GB
    86 Bubba Franks GB
    84 Chad Lewis PHI
    84 Frank Wycheck TEN
    82 Freddie Jones ARI
    82 Algee Crumpler ATL
    82 Randy McMichael MIA
    81 Billy Miller HOU
    81 Kyle Brady JAC
    81 Byron Chamberlin MIN
    81 Ken Dilger TB
    80 Dewayne Carswell DEN
    79 Christian Fauria NE
    79 Ernie Conwell NO
    79 Anthony Becht NYJ
    79 Mark Breuner PIT
    79 Jerramy Stevens SEA
    76 Doug Jolley OAK
    75 Desmond Clark CHI
    75 Dan Campbell DAL
    75 Dallas Clark IND
    75 Eric Johnson SF
    74 Steve Heiden CLE
    73 Stephen Alexander SD
    72 Tony McGee DAL
    70 Cam Cleeland STL
    69 Dave Moore BUF
    69 Michael Ricks DET
    69 L.J. Smith PHI
    68 Kris Magnum CAR
    61 Zeron Flemister WAS

    OT
    88 Wayne Gandy NO
    86 Flozell Adams DAL
    98 Jonathan Ogden BAL
    98 Orlando Pace STL
    95 Walter Jones SEA
    95 Tra Thomas PHI
    94 Chris Samuels WAS
    96 Lincoln Kennedy OAK
    92 Kyle Turley STL
    91 Jon Jansen WAS
    90 Willie Anderson CIN
    88 Mark Tauscher GB

    OG
    98 Larry Allen DAL
    97 Ruben Brown BUF
    97 Alan Faneca PIT
    90 Brian Waters KC
    89 LeCharles Bentley NO
    88 Edwin Mulitalo BAL
    76 Chris Villarrial CHI
    71 Andre Gurode DAL
    98 Will Shields KC
    96 Ron Stone SF
    95 Leonard Davis ARI
    92 Dan Neil DEN
    91 Jermaine Mayberry PHI

    C:
    96 Olin Kreutz CHI
    68 Al Johnson DAL
    97 Kevin Mawae NYJ
    93 Matt Birk MIN
    92 Tom Nalen DEN
    91 Jeremy Newberry SF

    DE
    98 Jason Taylor MIA
    98 Mike Strahan NYG
    97 Hugh Douglas JAC
    97 Simeon Rice TB
    94 Trevor Price DEN
    93 Julius Peppers CAR
    93 Richard Seymore NE
    93 John Abraham NYJ
    92 Patrick Kerney ATL
    92 Marcellus Wiley SD
    91 Andre Carter SF
    91 Jevon Kearse TEN
    90 Robert Porche DET
    89 Justin Smith CIN
    89 Greg Ellis DAL
    89 Leonard Little STL
    88 Darius Rucker CAR
    88 KJB GB
    88 Joe Johnson GB
    88 Vonnie Holliday KC
    88 Kevin Carter TEN
    87 Gary Walker HOU
    87 Dwight Freeney IND
    87 Grant Winstrom STL
    86 Courtney Brown CLE
    86 Eric Hicks KC
    85 Willie McGinest NE
    85 Darren Howard NO
    84 Aaron Smith PIT
    84 Raylee Johnson SD
    83 Chad Bratzke IND
    83 Bruce Smith WAS
    82 Brady Smith ATL
    82 Adewale Ogunleye MIA
    82 Kenny Holmes NYG
    81 N.D. Kalu PHI
    80 Marco Coleman JAC
    80 Brandon Whiting PHI
    79 Aaron Schobel BUF
    79 Phillip Daniels CHI
    79 Kenard Lang CLE
    79 Lance Johnstone MIN
    79 Charles Grant NO
    79 Shaun Ellis NYJ
    79 Antonio Cochran SEA
    78 Kenny Mixon MIN
    78 Chike Okeafor SEA
    77 Alex Brown CHI
    77 Greg Spiers TB
    76 Jerome McDougale PHI
    76 Kimo Von Oelhoffen PIT
    75 Michael Haynes CHI
    74 Michael McCrary BAL
    74 Carl Powell CIN
    74 Duane Clemons CIN
    74 Ebenezer Ekuban DAL
    74 Tyler Bryant OAK
    74 Renaldo Wynn WAS
    73 Kyle Vanden Bosch ARI
    73 Bertrand Berry DEN
    73 Trace Armstrong OAK
    72 Marcu Jones BUF
    72 Robaire Smith TEN
    70 Fred Wakefield ARI
    70 John Engelberger SF
    66 Jerry DeLoach HOU
    DT
    98 Warren Sapp TB
    97 La'Roi Glover DAL
    96 Bryant Young SF
    95 Corey Simon PHI
    94 Pat Williams BUF
    94 Chris Hovan MIN
    93 Kris Jenkins CAR
    91 Tim Bowens MIA
    90 Keith Traylor CHI
    90 Darryl Gardner DEN
    90 Luther Ellis DET
    90 Casey Hampton PIT
    90 John Randle SEA
    90 Anthony McFarland TB
    89 Ted Washington CHI
    89 Darwin Walker PHI
    89 Norman Hand SEA
    88 Gerald Warren CLE
    88 Jamal Williams SD
    87 Ellis Johnson ATL
    87 Cledius Hunt GB
    87 John Parrella OAK
    86 Rod Coleman OAK
    86 Jason Fisk SD
    86 Albert Haynesworth TEN
    85 Sam Adams BUF
    85 Tony Williams CIN
    85 Shaun Rogers DET
    85 John Henderson JAC
    84 Ed Jasper ATL
    84 Marcus Stoud JAC
    84 Larry Chester MIA
    83 Keith Hamilton NYG
    83 Dan Wilkinson WAS
    82 Brentson Buckner CAR
    82 John Thorton CIN
    82 Grady Jackson NO
    81 Josh Evans NYJ
    80 Brad Scioli IND
    80 Anthony Pleasant NE
    80 Dwayne Roberston NYJ
    80 Cody Pickett STL
    80 ??? Lewis STL
    78 Orpheous Roye CLE
    78 Larry Tripplett IND
    78 Carlos Hall TEN
    77 Seth Payne HOU
    77 Ryan Sims KC
    77 Kendrick Clancy PIT
    76 Wendell Bryant ARI
    76 Jonathan Sullivan NO
    75 Lional Dalton DEN
    75 Kevin Williams MIN
    74 John Browning KC
    74 Ty Warren NE
    74 Will Joseph NYG
    74 D'Marco Farr SF
    71 Russell Davis ARI
    70 Mike Myers DAL
    68 Rod Walker GB
    63 Charles Hill HOU

    LB
    99 Ray Lewis BAL
    99 Derrick Brooks TB
    98 Brian Urlacher CHI
    97 Lavar Arrington WAS
    96 Junior Seau MIA
    95 Zach Thomas MIA
    95 Joey Porter PIT
    94 Keith Brooking ATL
    94 Takeo Spikes BUF
    94 Jason Gildon PIT
    92 Peter Bowlware BAL
    92 Anthony Simmons SEA
    92 Julian Peterson SF
    91 Jamie Sharper HOU
    91 Kendrall Bell PIT
    91 Donnie Edwards SD
    91 Chad Brown SEA
    90 Robert Colvin NE
    90 Michael Borrow NYG
    90 Keith Bullock TEN
    89 London Fletcher BUF
    89 Brian Simmons CIN
    89 Earl Holmes DET
    89 Mike Peterson JAC
    88 Al Wilson DEN
    87 Eric Barton OAK
    87 Dwayne Rudd TB
    87 Jeremiah Trotter WAS
    87 Jessie Armstead WAS
    86 Warrick Holdman CHI
    86 Dexter Coakley DAL
    86 John Mobley DEN
    86 Teddy Bruschi NE
    86 Marvin Jones NYJ
    86 Shelton Quarles TB
    85 Mark Fields CAR
    85 Dan Morgan CAR
    85 Ian Gold DEN
    85 Rob Morris IND
    85 Shawn Barber KC
    85 Chris Claiborne MIN
    85 Bill Romanowski OAK
    85 Nate Wayne PHI
    84 Mo Lewis NYJ
    84 Sam Coward NYJ
    84 Carlos Emmons PHI
    83 Roman Phifer NE
    83 NapoleonHarris OAK
    83 Derek Smith SF
    82 Steve Foley CIN
    82 Na'il Diggs GB
    82 Greg Biekert MIN
    82 Tommy Polley STL
    81 ??? Hartwell BAL
    81 Dat Nguyen DAL
    81 Ishaiah Kacyvenski SEA
    80 Ronald McKinnon ARI
    80 Keith Newman ATL
    80 Kevin Hardy CIN
    80 Darrin Smith NO
    80 Jeff Ulbrich SF
    79 Jeff Posey BUF
    79 Mike Maslowski KC
    79 Peter Sirmon TEN
    78 JayForeman HOU
    78 Marcus Washington IND
    78 Derrick Rodgers NO
    77 Barry Gardner CLE
    77 Al Singleton DAL
    77 Dhani Jones NYG
    77 D'Hani Jones TEN
    76 Will Witherspoon CAR
    75 Raynoch Thompson ARI
    75 Nick Burnett GB
    75 Orlando Ruff NO
    75 Sedrick Hodge NO
    75 Ben Leber SD
    74 Sam Rogers ATL
    74 Boss Bailey DET
    74 Ka-Lee Wong HOU
    74 EJ Hendesron MIN
    74 Brandon Short NYG
    73 Levar Fisher ARI
    73 Mike Caldwell CHI
    73 James Duncan STL
    72 Barrett Green DET
    72 Morlon Greenwood MIA
    72 Mark Simoneau PHI
    71 #47 STL
    70 Hannibal Naives GB
    70 Zeke Moreno SD
    68 Kevin Bentley CLE
    65 Ben Taylor CLE
    65 Eric Westmoreland JAC
    64 David Thorton IND
    64 David Thornton IND
    61 Frank Chamberline TEN

    CB
    98 Champ Bailey WAS
    97 Sam Madison MIA
    96 Patrick Surtain MIA
    95 Ty Law NE
    94 Aaron Glenn HOU
    94 Charles Woodson OAK
    94 Ronde Barber TB
    93 Chris McAlister BAL
    93 Troy Vincent PHI
    93 Bobby Taylor PHI
    92 Shaun Williams NYG
    91 Aeneas Williams STL
    90 Mike McKenzie GB
    90 Brian Kelly TB
    88 Shawn Springs SEA
    87 Antonie Winfield BUF
    87 Samari Rolle TEN
    86 Nate Clements BUF
    86 RW McQuarters CHI
    86 Deltha O'Neal DEN
    86 Marcus Coleman HOU
    86 Chad Scott PIT
    86 Ahmed Plummer SF
    85 Duane Starks ARI
    85 Donnie Abraham NYJ
    84 Al Harris GB
    84 Will Allen NYG
    84 Will Allen NYG
    84 Quinten Jammer SD
    84 Fred Smoot WAS
    83 Dre Bly DET
    83 Dewayne Washington PIT
    82 Tyrone Williams ATL
    82 Derek Ross DAL
    82 Terrance Newman DAL
    82 Fernando Bryant JAC
    82 Fred Thomas NO
    82 Patrick Buchanon OAK
    81 Otis Smith NE
    81 Will Peterson NYG
    81 Aaron Beasley NYJ
    80 Ray Buchanan ATL
    80 Gary Baxter BAL
    80 Daylon McCutheon CLE
    80 Mario Edwards DAL
    80 Ashley Ambrose NO
    79 Jerry Azumah CHI
    79 Eric Warfield KC
    79 Ken Lucas SEA
    78 Artrell Hawkins CIN
    78 Anthony Henry CLE
    78 Marcus Trufant SEA
    77 Todd Cousin CAR
    77 Tory James CIN
    77 Jeff Burris CIN
    77 Jason Webster SF
    77 Alex Molden WAS
    76 Walt Harris IND
    76 Dexter McCleon KC
    76 Ray Mickens NYJ
    76 Sheldon Brown PHI
    75 Terrance Shaw OAK
    75 Lito Sheppard PHI
    74 Reggie Howard CAR
    74 Tay Cody SD
    74 Andre Woolfork TEN
    73 David Barrett ARI
    73 Jason Craft JAC
    72 Chris Cash DET
    72 Ken Irvin MIN
    71 Travis Fisher STL
    69 David Macklin IND
    69 Willie Offord MIN
    67 Jimmy Spencer DEN
    66 Ralph Brown NYG

    S:
    99 Brian Dawkins PHI
    98 Darren Sharper GB
    98 Lawyer Milloy NE
    96 Rod Woodson OAK
    96 John Lynch TB
    94 Darren Woodson DAL
    94 Rodney Harrison NE
    92 Shaun Williams NYG
    91 Mike Brown CHI
    91 Robert Griffith CLE
    91 Lance Shulters TEN
    90 Ed Reed BAL
    90 Roy Williams DAL
    90 Ryan McNeil SD
    90 Tony Parrish SF
    89 Brock Marion MIA
    88 Sam Knight MIA
    88 Adam Archuletta STL
    87 Adrian Wilson ARI
    87 Donavan Darius JAC
    87 Tebucky Jones NO
    87 Kwame Lassiter SD
    85 Mike Minter CAR
    85 Reggie Tongue SEA
    85 Dwight Smith TB
    83 Dexter Jackson ARI
    82 Corey Fuller BAL
    82 Greg Wesley KC
    82 Michael Lewis PHI
    82 Jason Sehorn STL
    82 Kim Herring STL
    82 Tank Williams TEN
    81 Marlon McCree JAC
    81 Zack Bronson SF
    80 Deon Grant CAR
    80 Bracey Walker DET
    80 Corey Chavous MIN
    79 Cory Wire BUF
    79 Idrees Bashir IND
    78 Pierson Prioleau BUF
    78 Izell Reese BUF
    78 Kenoy Kennedy DEN
    78 Maques Anderson GB
    78 Derrick Gibson OAK
    78 Troy Polamalu PIT
    78 Matt Bowen WAS
    78 Ifeanyi Ohalete WAS
    77 Keon Carpenter ATL
    77 Mike Green CHI
    77 Mark Roman CIN
    76 Cory Hall ATL
    76 Lee Flowers DEN
    76 Sam Garnes NYJ
    75 Omar Soutmire NYG
    74 Rogers Beckett CIN
    74 Mike Doss IND
    74 Brent Alexander PIT
    73 Jerome Woods KC
    73 Damien Robinson SEA
    72 Earl Little CLE
    71 Matt Stevens HOU
    71 Eric Brown HOU
    70 Jay Bellamy NO
    69 Mel Mitchel NO
    69 Jon McGraw NYJ
    54 Woodrow Danzler DAL

    K:
    99 Adam Vinatieri NE
    98 David Akers PHI
    95 Orlindo Mare MIA
    95 Martin Gramatica TB
    93 Matt Stover BAL
    93 Mike Vanderjact IND
    90 Paul Edinger CHI
    P:
    98 Todd Sauerbrun CAR
    95 Brad Maynard CHI
    95 Chris Hanson JAC
    94 Scott Player ARI
    94 Sean Lechler OAK

  9. I'm really surprised Kurt Warner is'nt rated higher. He's had one of the highest quarterback ratings in NFL history.

  10. "Fucking fair weather fans."

    I hate that about sports. Like they say, "The real basketball fans in LA root for the Clippers."

    "He's had one of the highest quarterback ratings in NFL history."

    He was also the beneficiary of one of the best receiving corps of all time. Anyway, last year was a fluke, I think. He'll be back to his accurate, intelligent self.

    The Seahawks fan in me says both Hasselbeck and K. Robinson will outperform those ratings this year. Hasselbeck really matured over the last half of last year, and Robinson benefitted greatly from it.

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