Saw it with burgundy and Tron last weekend, up in VA. Awesome.
Stupid question time:
"Hattori Hanzo". Does this name have some significance to Japanese culture/history other than as the name of a character in Samurai Shodown?
Takashi Miike's Visitor Q tops both of these on thing you should be ashamed/disgusted of watching but end up laughing aboutNo cheap laughs in theis movie, it's all stuff you're ashamed to be laughing at (moreso than you were at the South Park movie.)
KB Rant:
The problem with most of the KB negativity is partly the fact that people are trying to compare it to his past works and expected more of the exact same thing when it is an entirely different animal
This is a niche film whose soul purpose is to expose the public to new genres that they may not have experienced themselves, that give QT his personal inspiration and influence
It cannot be faulted for over the top gore or violence, lack of dialogue, or even unbelievable situations, as these were things to be expected due to its influences and intentions.
Another problem, is not understanding the fact that being a homage film and not having watched the same type of films that the tribute is being paid to, that 90% of the references and nods will blow right over joe six packs head.
This is a film for lovers of the genres covered (samurai action, anime, exploitation, 70's camp, Bruce Lee and karate in general, QT's own movies and even a splash of 80's comedy thrown in)
With all of that being said this film was pulled off with QT's enamourous style, perfect soundtrack, superb cinematography, and excellent cast.
Sure some people will not like it citing what I have already stated, but those were the people that either wouldnt have liked it anyways, or the people who did not do there cinematic homework and had their expectations set in the wrong place.
As shown today and in the past, a great movie causes much controversy
Saw it with burgundy and Tron last weekend, up in VA. Awesome.
Stupid question time:
"Hattori Hanzo". Does this name have some significance to Japanese culture/history other than as the name of a character in Samurai Shodown?
The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure it is always right. -Learned Hand
"Jesus christ you are still THE WORST." -FirstBlood
Hattori Hanzo... aka Devil Hanzo was a ninja leader from the Nobunaga and post Nobunaga era of Japan.
He died just at the start of the Edo era.
You sir, are a hideous hermaphroditical character which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.
I saw this with my girlfriend (who I warned the movie would be bloody but she insisted we go watch it anyway).
I really enjoyed it, and like many others, I laughed at how over the top the violence was. Blood spurting out of a freshly decapitated body like it was a fountain, the body stiff as a cardboard... it never looked real for a second. It was also funny watching O-Ren immediately running across the table to get to Tanaka after he made that remark...
I was expecting much, much worse gore in this movie than I got. After seeing the cover of some horror movie magazine with the guy's eyeball removed, I thought the movie would be more realistic. There were of course, times where the violence seemed very real... like when
Buck's head got slammed by the door.
The overall pace was perfect although it was a little slow in the scenes with Hattori Hanzo. The mesh of different cultures is movie homages was great. I can't wait to see the next one.
The only thing I was curious about is who would be willing to pay for all that surgery and hospital costs for the Bride, who is nearly dead and in a coma? Oh well, I guess it's just for the sake of the movie's story...
Name: Rock
Town: Arcadia
About her name: I'll give you a hint. (not revealed, but you might be able to guess it)
"Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids."
Bill also says her name in the beginning, but if you didn't know what it was, you would miss it.
Its also written on her plane ticket.
The Kill Bill vinyl OST is now up for order on the official site...
www.kill-bill.com
$20 including a free mini-poster. Not bad.
There is no track listing, but as long as Battle Without Honor is on there... I'm a happy fellow.
Buy!
Originally Posted by bbobb
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Man, You just have to read this review. This guy is soo off, its not funny
" Director's bag of Trix is tired
By Chris Garcia
American-Statesman Film Critic
Posted: October 10, 2003
Quentin Tarantino has been away for a long time. Did anybody miss him?
If so, bring out the balloons. He's back in an emphatic way with his homage to B flicks, "Kill Bill: Volume 1," a chopsocky action feast blazing with old-school chic, samurai swordplay and copious blood that sprays from wounds like water from a busted fire hydrant.
"Kill Bill" is pretty awful a crushing, interminable bore nude of wit and surprise. (My cardinal rule of movie watching: Don't bore me.) While it has the style and self-conscious groove Tarantino trademarked in "Reservoir Dogs," "Pulp Fiction" and "Jackie Brown," the movie completely lacks his famous verbal bite and aficionado's gift for reconstituting '70s pulp cinema into a post-modern exhilaration. (The dreary "Jackie Brown," a so-called tribute to blaxploitation, suffered the same fate.)
Where the earlier movies pretzled genres, "Kill Bill" is a wearisome exercise in recycling. For starters, those cartoony blood geysers are right out of animι, manga and Asian martial arts pictures from the '70s, though most viewers will think it's Tarantino's idea. Only his indulgence is his. He wrings the coolness out of the spectacle through endless, ain't-I-clever repetition.
And isn't a martial arts extravaganza so five years ago, especially for a hipster like Tarantino? "Kill Bill" comes way after the mainstreaming of Hong Kong action films, the impact of Ang Lee's stately martial arts epic "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" and all of the "Matrix" backwash, which is so ubiquitous that Diane Lane probably twirls through the air with a sword in "Under the Tuscan Sun."
Part of the reason "Reservoir Dogs" (1992) and "Pulp Fiction" (1994) were so brilliant was because they felt entirely new. Tarantino blindsided us with spunky pop culture allusions and verbose lowlifes who turned banal observation into funny pop poetry.
You can see Tarantino straining to be clever and edgy in "Kill Bill." The fact that he's cast David Carradine you know, the old "Kung Fu" television show guy as Bill is its own lame punch line. Uma Thurman's avenging babe (wearing Bruce Lee's yellow leather jumpsuit another hip reference, ha ha) gets stuck driving a pickup that looks straight out of a '70s Hot Wheels catalog. Emblazoned on the tailgate is an alpha-male obscenity that recalls Samuel L. Jackson's expletive-embossed wallet in "Pulp Fiction," but this one's not funny because it's hardly believable someone would tool around town with such a slogan. (Jackson's groovy Jules would carry that wallet, though.)
By far the movie's most embarrassing attempt at nostalgia chic is when Thurman looks a foe in the eye and says blankly, "Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids." It's come to this.
No film this year has approached the vacancy of "Kill Bill" and none has so lavishly stumbled on its own juvenile swagger. It gropes at super-coolosity all those worshipful shots of Thurman's slinky death machine and a funky retro soundtrack and pop-culture cutes and comes up empty.
Yet it will kill at the box office, sucking in audiences piqued by the re-entry of QT, as well as the legions of adolescent (and arrested adolescent) boys who like Kevin Smith's movies and Harry Knowles' movie reviews.
Tarantino is calling "Kill Bill" a "duck press" of the grindhouse pictures he's watched over the past 35 years. Unfortunately, that's what this genre jumble feels like a clumsy pastiche of other, better movies, given the kiss of cool by Tarantino. The older films are generally trash, yet they exert a campy fascination today because they are of their time. Do we really need a new blaxploitation or redundant martial arts flick when we can rent the real thing?
One wonders if Tarantino can create a movie universe out of whole cloth, not just crazy quilts patched from other movies. His schtick, dazzling in "Reservoir Dogs" and "Pulp Fiction," is getting old. While I refuse to believe Tarantino has lost his touch, he is working in a different age, an ironic meta-age, and the things that worked in his early pictures don't necessarily work anymore.
Critical word on "Kill Bill" is unaccountably ecstatic. The response harks to the hyperventilation over "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon," which besides being paced like a dirge (something "Kill Bill" shares) was merely a slicker version of the stuff Tsui Hark was doing in Hong Kong 10 years earlier.
People are desperate for something different, which may explain the fulsome overpraise for a film like the sweet but limited "Lost in Translation." Theaters are clogged with mediocrity, so when a movie comes along draped in anticipatory buzz or name-brand cachet, well, that's something. "Kill Bill: Volume 1" is definitely something, but it's a pretty worthless something"
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Despair, I fail to see what's so "off" about that review. I think it makes a lot of good points about the weaknesses of Kill Bill. You may not agree with what he says, but I think he makes a lot of sense. He didn't like the film, and has good reasons why. What's so "off" about that?
Satoshi Kon: 1963-2010
Wow, not only does he knock Kill Bill, but Kevin Smith and Lost in Translation as well? There was no need for that, he's only letting everyone know how out of touch he is.
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