Xbox Live update deletes files off your hard drive.

[Sl1p]

So you're saying that you can run emulators and have a shitty, mid-tier PC that runs linux. OH BOY!

These people have PC's. They should use them.

I just noticed this-

Hey Microsoft: if I don't want anything to do with your Live service, leave me the fuck alone.

What in the hell are you babbling about? Just don't put your personal information onto your XBOX. They aren't shifting through your mail here. This is a common sense issue.

[Mamoscott]

So you're saying that you can run emulators and have a shitty, mid-tier PC that runs linux. OH BOY!

These people have PC's. They should use them.

Try building a mid-tier PC with everything you need for a multimedia/emulation box for under $300. Also, make sure the PC you build has no problems emulating Xbox games either and that it supports all the video and audio outputs/modes that the Xbox is capable of. There's a reason people mod their Xbox consoles instead of buying another PC, jackass.

This is a common sense issue.

What in the hell are you babbling about? Just don't put your personal information onto your XBOX. They aren't shifting through your mail here. This is a common sense issue.

Why do you think this thread exists? Microsoft is "sifting through your mail" so long as your console is hooked up to your internet connection. Do you even bother reading anything before spewing your garbage? The site linked in this thread's first post explains everthing in detail.

If the Xbox's network connection is properly set up, some games, such as "Tom Clancy's SplinterCell" phone home, i.e. the Xbox establishes a connection to one of Microsoft's central computers, and transmits sensitive information such as the serial number of the Xbox. The user never gets asked or even informed about it.

the Xbox transmits its serial number to Microsoft as soon as networking is set up, even if the user does not intend to join the Xbox Live service. A simple "ping" would have been enough to verify the settings are correct, transmitting the Xbox serial number is not necessary.

The Realm "PASSPORT.NET" and the automatically generated client name in Passport format might indicate that Xbox users that set up networking on their Xbox get registered at Microsoft's Passport service automatically.

Even if you don't have subscribed to Xbox Live (and maybe being subject to the Xbox Live EULA), Microsoft may update the Dashboard software on your Xbox without notice.
If your network details are correctly set up, and you select the "XBOX LIVE" entry in your Xbox Dashboard or select anything that has to do with Xbox Live in a game (although you have not signed up to the Xbox Live service), the Dashboard starts "phoning home", retrieving the latest version and installing it - all you can do to cancel this is turn off your Xbox.

[youandwhosearmy]

Try building a mid-tier PC with everything you need for a multimedia/emulation box for under $300. Also, make sure the PC you build has no problems emulating Xbox games either and that it supports all the video and audio outputs/modes that the Xbox is capable of. There's a reason people mod their Xbox consoles instead of buying another PC, jackass.

I would still think going through the trouble of doing this unless you are either a techwhore or a guy with way too much time on their hands nullifies the fact that it makes it next to impossible to go online with a modded system the way Live is set up. I mean I am sure there will be, or are ways to patch it so you could still go online if they did get your serial number to complain that they check up on a product that they released to make sure you aren't fucking with it in a way that could give you an advantage by using to go online (i.e. cheat codes, speed caps, etc...) or you simply didn't mod the hardware to play bootleg games (y'know cause that is illegal) is their thing to do,

and honestly, if your smart enough to have successfully modded your xbox, you should be smart enough to know Microsoft will find some way to fuck you with it.

This is a common sense issue.

Yes but common sense would be buying a mid-tier computer tower with the basics you'd need to go online for 300-350 dollars.

Why do you think this thread exists? Microsoft is "sifting through your mail" so long as your console is hooked up to your internet connection. Do you even bother reading anything before spewing your garbage? The site linked in this thread's first post explains everthing in detail.

Your right here, people need to read what the thread was about a bit more than they do.

[johnk_]

i have to take back some of what i said before about XBL..
i rented Midnight Club II last night and it's pretty damn good...
didn't have a chance to try it on live yet, but it looks like i may have something worth playing on live, as long as the other people who play it aren't dicks.

[Regus]

No Live game, however, updates your dashboard.

I don't know. He says he got Xbox Live from playing MA. That means he got Live for free...

A friend of mine has that "Xbox Live!" tab in his dashboard, even though he has never once gone online. And as far as I know, just because that tab is there doesn't mean you have Live.

[sphere79]

didn't have a chance to try it on live yet, but it looks like i may have something worth playing on live, as long as the other people who play it aren't dicks.

When I rented the game I noticed alot of "gansta" wanna-be "playas" types seemed to be attracted to that particular title. It's just not my kind of racing game, I'm looking forward to Sega GT ( for only $20! ) Rallisport 2 ( message to Sega - you put Sega Rally 3 and VF4 on the PS2 and I buy Rallisport 2 and Soul Caliber 2 instead, keep it up and you'll see less and less of my $$$ ) and Project Gotham. I wish they'd do another Nascar Heat with Live play, although I don't know if most players would have the patience to go the distance without crashing, etc.

[Chux]

If you're going to mod your box, you're already doing somethin MS doesn't want you to do. Who the hell cares if you get linux on it, for "Legal" purposes. Myself I use the ones with the box SDK, if you want them, you can get them. ALSO if you can play the emu's you can BACK UP YOUR HARD DRIVE.

Since they didn't kill off his Eeprom, he didnt get banned from live, which doesn't matter since he says he didn't want to get on live anyway, so I don't see the problem there either. People need to be educated before they go and mod their box, then cry like a bitch with a skinned knee when something happens to it, and call conspiracy on MS' part.

[Melf]

A friend of mine has that "Xbox Live!" tab in his dashboard, even though he has never once gone online. And as far as I know, just because that tab is there doesn't mean you have Live.

Have him check what the tab does. If it's the same Live tab everyone else has, he should be able to make a friends list, access his account information, etc. If he can do any of those things, he has Live. He must have gotten it somewhere and I've never heard of any game just putting on the machine.

I'm not 100% sure about any of that though and would like to know if it does indeed happen. I admit I didn't buy any Live-enabled games until after I got the starter kit, so I can't say for certain that no games install the tab on their own.

Even so, it would still make sense to me if they did because the games clearly state that they can be played online, so for them to get your system ready for it shouldn't be anything unusual.

I just don't buy the "one day I woke up and I had Live!" story.

[Adrian]

Not really bothered about this, I use my Xbox to watch DivX movies and play CPS2 games (which is a lot better on a TV) rather than mediocre online games. I love the concept of Live but there are no must have games for it IMO (not saying they're rubbish, just nothing special). Fighters simply do not work online and C rated FPS on a pad are even worse.

Serves him right for buying Mech Assualt anyway, what was he thinking

[Regus]

Some more info:

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11548


Here's another reason why this guy had his xbox connected online, even though he doesn't use Live.

Anyway, I just watched some of the videos of this thing in action, and I am really impressed with what these guy have accomplished, especially how they were able to use Windows.