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  1. Job Market Once Shipped Overseas

    I know that over the past few years, jobs within the computer sciences industry such as databasing, engineering, etc... has been shipped over seas to countries like India. There are a few reasons but I only remember two of them:

    1. It's much cheaper, over in India they can get them for much lower wages than what they would have to pay someone in America.

    2. There hours, when it's night here, it's day there, meaning they are awake and probably at work to solve a sudden problem in the middle of the night.

    Both of those sound like a good way to both save money, and increase productivity for comapnies dealing with Software, Databases, Servers, etc... As my Software Engineering teacher points out often when lecturing us on the most avaliable job markets.

    Recently though, our teacher asked us to question a person from Devry university who was coming in, about said situation. Her response was "Ever since September 11th, those jobs have been coming back to American's. Not to mention that we need the jobs to fix our unemployment rate. Recently New England (I think) Released a long to technological companies that they can not ship those jobs over seas. This way we have less of a threat to our security..." She went on about like China not making our military supplies and whatnot.

    So, in response to this, I've taken on an assignment to retrieve data and write up a report on the job market overseas, coming back to America. I'm am asking for some help in finding sites that might provide statistics, and reports on said topic. I'm really not interested in your opinions on the matter, though sure throw them in, they just won't be in my report.

    I'm trying CNN but I can't think of what to ask for, I tried "Job market overseas" and what not, nothing too useful. The help would be greatly appreciated, so please and thank you.

    Edit: Data Should be recent such as within one month of notice. But I'm already asking enough so unless you really want to help, don't worry about it I'll check all the goodness myself ^.^ Thanks again.

  2. I'd search www.news.com and Slashdot, actually. Funny thing is, everything I've seen, statistically, is that if anything, MORE jobs are being shipped off shore. Sun just trimmed close to 1000 jobs recently (excuse me, they "realigned" those workers). Prior to this, they had signed some contracts to move a lot of support work to India. Compaq/HP has done likewise over the last year or so. Oracle is also a big outsourcer, from what I remember.

    EDIT:
    Here's some links for you:


    "indian outsource boom slowing"

    Labor activists picket outsourcing event

    India's new outsourcing rival--Romania?

    3Com to outsource all manufacturing

    Outsourcing White Paper

    http://www.naea.us/
    http://www.programmersguildusa.com/


    That should give you a start.
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  3. Thanks Wolffen, I'll get to looking at that after I get home from work.

    Thank you Despair for your... very helpful information :P

  4. Well, he has first hand knowledge of the status of the job market due to recent event. Cut him a little slack.

    Someday the economy will truly pick up, and businesses will start hiring again. Either that, or the employees who are being forced to pull the weight of 3 people will start revolting.
    Never under any circumstance scrutinize the mastication orifice of a gratuitous herbivorous quadruped.

  5. #6
    America, the land of people who sale crap to each other.

  6. Oh I don't mean any harm by my comment to Despair.

    Also yeah I heard about the sun thing. It's just the law in New England seems to be a step towards retrieving our jobs.

  7. #8
    I just don't see how sending the bulk of work to other nations helps the US's economy on the GRAND skale. Sure, I bet it puts more money into the hands of stock owners and the people who own and run larege companies, but how is it good for the economy for the bulk of middle class jobs to be sale services to other americans. I mean, shouldn't the system colapse at some point from that? Because you pay for said product, some of the price goes to pay for product, some goes to over head, and a small ammout goes to pay the person who sold it to you. Then he/she takes that money he is payed to buy things. Someone gets a small ammount of that as his pay. The money keaps getting smaller and smaller. How does the economy keap going when a large sum of the money is not being put back into the economy?

  8. Well, in these days of 12 month CEOs (who get $500K salaries, million dollar hiring bonuses, free loans, and millions in options), the long term doesn't matter that much.

    Even with all the job cuts of late, there is still an overall vacuum in regards to IT knowledge here in the states. Unfortunately, the vacuum isn't evenly distributed, and most companies are learning to do without for now, until the economy turns around.

    Funny thing is, the outsourcing cycle will never end. As the cost of living goes up in India (as the country grows and mondernizes), they get beat out by cheaper labor (see the Romania article).
    Never under any circumstance scrutinize the mastication orifice of a gratuitous herbivorous quadruped.

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