Killer 7

[sethsez]

The series was, along with Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider, the top dog on PSX. Now its second-tier to GTA and Halo. Did putting it on systems like Dreamcast and GameCube cause this? Yes.

There's also the fact that, like Tomb Raider, once the initial infatuation was gone there wasn't much to back it up with. RE4 is the first game in the series that's actually worth a damn as a game.

[James]

And PN03 is not worth owning or playing. No one will ever convince me that that piece of crap is worth anything more than the bottom of a garbage can.

I would have agreed with that sentence for a good long while, until people whose opinion I respected kept saying PN03 was surprisingly good. So I picked it up for $10 and gave it a shot, and found out that, when accepted on its own terms, it's actually pretty decent.

James

[sethsez]

PN03 is weird. It's like a documentary on some bizarre, niche little thing... how much you enjoy it is directly proportional to how interested you are in the topic at hand. The quality of the product is almost incidental.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed it quite a bit, but I tend to like action-puzzle games. The problem is that PN03 was never marketed as such.

[animegirl]

"WTF" is my favorite genre. Ever play "Panic" on Sega CD? Or "Tail of the Sun" on PSOne?

I played Tail of the Sun, that was one weird ass game!

[Korly]

Considering this is only the second game to be released out of it, saying that VJ was the only good experience is pretty obvious at this point.

What?

[avatar]

They'd have to have paid them a shit-ton of cash to make it actually worth it. Capcom likely lost a lot of sales with games like RE4 and Viewtiful Joe launching first on GameCube. Nintendo got a good deal out of it, though--they've got the best versions of some of this generations top games.

Wait didn't RE4 pass 1 million sales? Doesn't VJ sell better on the cube?

Capcom gave Nintendo 1 crap game, another 2 I don't think they expected to do very well, they cancelled the 4th one and then announced a port to the PS2 like 2 weeks before the biggest game of the 5 released. Capcom screwed themselves.

I hope this teaches Capcom to stop making exclusives. All the publishers should be taking the road to non-exclusives.

RE4 will also cost them good money to put on PS2. Honestly, putting RE on GameCube killed the franchise from a viability standpoint. Nintendo was betting that PSX fans would buy a GameCube to play the games. All PSX fans did was play something else. Would they have bought the new games anyway? Outbreak didin't do that good and it was the first online RE game.PSX fans would have found new things to play if RE was on thier console or not. Look at MGS. Top dog last gen, but the new version(maybe the best version) was overshadowed by GTA on the PS2

The series was, along with Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider, the top dog on PSX. Now its second-tier to GTA and Halo. Did putting it on systems like Dreamcast and GameCube cause this? Yes. Please this hapens every gen. Sonic and Mario were top dogs during 16 bit and now thier gone. RE and FF were popular last gen and now thier halo and GTA bitches. Qoute me on this a new ip wil come out next gen and overtake halo and GTA as the big games of the gen. It has nothing to do with porting franchises.

You cant quantify these things but Capcom wouldve sold a lot more copies of these games if they put them on the PS2 first. RE4 is by most people's estimation the best RE game yet and one of the best games ever and has moved 500,000 copies so far. That is pitiful, the PSX games sold 6 or 8 times that. Im sure, internally, Capcom has been fuming at this decision for years and wishes they could take it back.
It has sold close to million world-wide. It didn't bomb by any strecth of the imigination. Will RE4 have sold better on the PS2? Not by much. There are new ips out there that have taken the mainstream eye and without that a lot of people would have just passed by.
And PN03 is not worth owning or playing. No one will ever convince me that that piece of crap is worth anything more than the bottom of a garbage can.

PN03 was okay

[Sqoon]

The series was, along with Final Fantasy and Tomb Raider, the top dog on PSX. Now its second-tier to GTA and Halo. Did putting it on systems like Dreamcast and GameCube cause this? Yes.

This is stupid crazy talk. People stopped giving a shit about Tomb Raider when it stopped being about tombs and it's never recovered since. Square put one FF game on the GC, a total side game that no would care about if it succeeded or failed. PSX Resident Evil fans not jumping over to GC to play the next entry the series is is bad. PSX Final Fantasy fans not jumping to the GC to play a game which has no bearing on the 'official' numbered series isn't even in the same league.

That is pitiful, the PSX games sold 6 or 8 times that.

Seriously, WTF.
RE4 moved 660,000 units in NA (http://the-magicbox.com/game20050601.shtml) while RE2 did 1.7 million (http://cube.ign.com/articles/463/463614p1.html).

It's only a third of RE 2 sales, but RE2 was the series' best seller and the fact is that RE has been drying out well before the GC (RE3 only did 1 million).

[James]

Don't make me defend DiffX, it drives me nuts when you do that.

A game of RE4's calibur should have sold far in excess of its 660k. If it was on the PS2, 1.5 million would have probably been attainable. Much as I appreciate the fact that RE4 looked far, far better than anything the PS2 could produce, with proper marketing RE4 could have sold much better on a system that, I'm sad to say, isn't as lively as it should be.

James

[Mzo]

I remember playing PN03 one time when Andy787 was over, and we were just so stunned at what a vapid wasteland of fun it totally was.

Then we played Indiana Jones on the N64 and it was the best game we had ever played.

[avatar]

Don't make me defend DiffX, it drives me nuts when you do that.

A game of RE4's calibur should have sold far in excess of its 660k. If it was on the PS2, 1.5 million would have probably been attainable. Much as I appreciate the fact that RE4 looked far, far better than anything the PS2 could produce, with proper marketing RE4 could have sold much better on a system that, I'm sad to say, isn't as lively as it should be.

James

Didn't Capcom market the game since they published it?