SNK Discussion Madness/ SamShoV/0 Poppy Code

[Wilykat]

Man, some of you are so hung up on graphics. What happened to enjoying good old fashioned gameplay?

It's more than just graphics. I get frustrated that a company with such a great history and talent such as SNK has resigned itself to being a niche relic, content just to serve it's dwindling number of fans. I'm not saying a break from their current hardware and current will meet them with massive mainstream success, but joining other developers in the 21st century couldn't hurt. Even if SNK has to do something as bold as taking a risk.

Metal Slug 5? The tenth installment of King of Fighters? I'm having trouble maintaining interest in their library. SNK has the potential to really reinvigorate themselves and I'd hate to see them pass it over. Neo-Geo devotees always lean on the crutch response "the gameplay is all that matters", yet it seems many of them fear change as much as SNK itself does.

Furthermore, I know the arcade market is still vibrant outside the US, but SNK has to put more emphasis on current consoles. It's great that they can get speedy conversions of their games to the AES from the MVS, but the that KOF2001 is just about to be released on the PS2 in 2003 is kinda sad.

I look forward to maybe playing Samurai Spirits V on my PS2 in 2005.

[Roufuss]

It's more than just graphics. I get frustrated that a company with such a great history and talent such as SNK has resigned itself to being a niche relic, content just to serve it's dwindling number of fans. I'm not saying a break from their current hardware and current will meet them with massive mainstream success, but joining other developers in the 21st century couldn't hurt. Even if SNK has to do something as bold as taking a risk.

Metal Slug 5? The tenth installment of King of Fighters? I'm having trouble maintaining interest in their library. SNK has the potential to really reinvigorate themselves and I'd hate to see them pass it over. Neo-Geo devotees always lean on the crutch response "the gameplay is all that matters", yet it seems many of them fear change as much as SNK itself does.

Furthermore, I know the arcade market is still vibrant outside the US, but SNK has to put more emphasis on current consoles. It's great that they can get speedy conversions of their games to the AES from the MVS, but the that KOF2001 is just about to be released on the PS2 in 2003 is kinda sad.

I look forward to maybe playing Samurai Spirits V on my PS2 in 2005.

I would love to see SNK make a hit game on a next gen console, make a ton of cash, to use that to really give KoF a facelift. I think, right now, it's that SNK dosen't have the cash to totally re-do it's sprites and such, because I would have imagined they'd have done it by now.

I want to get and play KoF 2002, but only for cheap and only because of the character they put back in for the dream match. I'm not excited for the graphics or how it plays, because I know it'll play like KoF 98 or similar (since they removed strikers).

People care more about the roster and characters then the actual game, which is good on one hand (people are very loyal to the characters), but bad on another hand, because well, a bland game dosen't interrest anyone.

KoF 2001 is one of the ugliest 2d games i've played, espically with those backgrounds. But I guess that's more Eolith's fault than SNK's?

[The Bastard]

Wilykat:

That was a much better explanation. This I can truly understand. I guess SNK's thinking is that every single time they have taken a huge risk, they've got raped. (Hyper Neo-Geo 64, Neo-Geo Pocket) They seem to be prepared to take a decent risk with KOF 3D and SNK Playmore US President Ben Herman mentioned the idea of a new Baseball Stars, 3D Metal Slug etc. It'd be great if they made a new Cool Cool Toon, Iron Tank, Ikari Warriors, Crystalis, their other old stuff or some new shit, but in this day and age of innovation in games not being accepted very well they I guess seem still a bit skeptical. I don't want them to end up like Sega did during the whole Dreamcast thing.

KOF 2001 coming out over here just now near the end of 2003 is somewhat discouraging, but them trying to get out SNK VS Capcom Chaos in the first quarter of 2004 over here isn't too bad. I give them till summer to get Samurai Shodown 5/Zero on PS2.

Neo-Geo fans are very stubborn to change and I'd assume most of them would leave after SNK finally stops Neo-Geo support. Then again, lots of people seem to be hesitant towards change in their favourite video game series.

Enough of my rambling! I'll just wait and see what happens next....

[mollipen]

Neo-Geo fans are very stubborn to change and I'd assume most of them would leave after SNK finally stops Neo-Geo support. Then again, lots of people seem to be hesitant towards change in their favourite video game series.

I'm a huge NeoGeo fan, and I'm considering just not caring anymore about SNK because they won't change. What, ten years from now, are they still going to be making games on the Neo hardware?

[Diff-chan]

Neo-Geo fans are very stubborn to change and I'd assume most of them would leave after SNK finally stops Neo-Geo support. Then again, lots of people seem to be hesitant towards change in their favourite video game series.

SNK's artists are good enough, and their game designers are strong enough, that I think they could afford to lose those Neo-Geo fans. It's seriously such a small audience, a drop in the ocean compared to the entire game industry. We're talking what, 3,000 or 4,000 people here? Not a whole big audience to lose when Sony has sold 50,000,000 systems.

Not to mention that there is a difference between giving your fans what they want, and letting their stubbornness retard your company's growth.

[The Bastard]

All very good points. Ironic that SNK's slogan is "The Future Is Now". Anybody feel I should just change this thread name to something else?

[Neo_Veteran]

This is probably one of the most funniest threads I have
ever read in a message board

[Diff-chan]

This is probably one of the most funniest threads I have
ever read in a message board

[The Bastard]

Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! Good work diffusionx!

[Roufuss]

All very good points. Ironic that SNK's slogan is "The Future Is Now". Anybody feel I should just change this thread name to something else?

I'd believe that if the future of video gaming was decade old sprites and rehashed gameplay.

I'd love to see a new or updated version of Crystalis, but all SNK makes anymore are shooters and fighters. Which is horrible, because Crystalis ranks as one of my all time faves.