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    rigged votes perhaps?

  2. Quote Originally Posted by IronPlant
    rigged votes perhaps?
    Of course, that's it! The Imperialist Dog Demon Satan Hitelr Angry White Man doesn't want to send the flag back to the tailor's to add another star to it, so they deny an entire society the rights they so obviously want by rigging the votes!

    HOW CAN WE BE SO BLIND TO TEH TRUTH!!?!1@ OMG

  3. Almaci, do you believe everything the US is involved in is bathed in conspiracy? Why live here then?
    http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1739&dateline=1225393453

  4. Gohron... he doesn't live here. He isnt American. He's Belgian. Which is what makes it so funny, he doesn't know shit about this country except what he reads in the highly objective European press and Indymedia.

  5. [bad_timing]Anybody know any good Puerto-Rican jokes[/bad_timing]

  6. Quote Originally Posted by diffusionx
    Gohron... he doesn't live here. He isnt American. He's Belgian. Which is what makes it so funny, he doesn't know shit about this country except what he reads in the highly objective European press and Indymedia.
    Guess that explains it, seems people in Europe always think they're experts about our country but they're the ones with the Socialist press and governments who control the information that gets down to them.
    http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1739&dateline=1225393453

  7. Quote Originally Posted by diffusionx
    Almaci, there have been a number of votes and every single vote has been inconclusive. All of my family on my mom's side (the Puerto Rican side) agrees with the fact that we (yes, WE, I am Puerto Rican) should be a state but the votes have not shown that this is what the majority of PR-ans want. I remember my grandmother and aunt was living with us at the time of one of the votes and they were shocked at the results.
    The reson the votes are inconclusive is because everyone knows nothing will change. We've had three plebisites in the last 25 years and Washington has ignored the results of all of them. It's another example of the US' total indifference to the status problem here. Check it out.

    1952: The Commonwealth of PR is established. As far as the US was concerned, the status problem was resolved.

    1978: The US petitions the UN to have PR removed from the list of colonies and territories that should be given independence by 2000, because the commonwealth status is "not colonial by definition or nature."

    Along come the 1990s and all of a sudden the commonwealth is not a permanent status option. The US congress has repeatedly said that it isn't, yet they fail to provide acceptable options. If commonwealth isn't acceptable, what is? Until congress establishes acceptable options, people here won't take any plebisites, constituent assemblies, etc seriously. Why should they? Washington is just going to continue to ignore the results as it always has.

    Maybe if they took as much time and effort to provide us with acceptable options as they did in activating our reserve forces (more than any state), the situation would be resolved.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Melf
    The reson the votes are inconclusive is because everyone knows nothing will change. We've had three plebisites in the last 25 years and Washington has ignored the results of all of them. It's another example of the US' total indifference to the status problem here. Check it out..
    This "well we know nothing will change so why bother" attitude will not get Puerto Rico or anybody anywhere. If a vote conclusively said, yes, we want to be a state, and the Puerto Rican government and citizens bugged Congress until they did something about it, then things will change. But with the whole "why bother" attitude, really Im not surprised at all that nothing has been done.

  9. It's not that simple. For a conclusive vote to mean anything, the congress has to first recognize the plebisite that results in any decision. They have not sponsored, recognized, or even observed any of the three plebisites held in the last quarter century. What good is a majority vote if those in authority don't even recognize the election?

    In 105 years, the US has made no effort to resolve the status problem. Every time a vote is cast here regarding it, the congress spouts that "no majority means no action" bullshit.

    Tell the people what the acceptable actions are. Authorize and observe the vote, then respect the outcome. That's the congress' responsibility. We can have plebisites where statehood gets 80% (which will never happen) and it'll mean dick unless the congress agrees to act on it.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by diffusionx
    Gohron... he doesn't live here. He isnt American. He's Belgian. Which is what makes it so funny, he doesn't know shit about this country except what he reads in the highly objective European press and Indymedia.
    Wich is total and utter bulshit as I dont even go to indymedia sites etcetera and whenever I provide links to verify my claims its mostly to US mass media sites

    Quote Originally Posted by Gohron
    Almaci, do you believe everything the US is involved in is bathed in conspiracy? Why live here then?
    Where did I claim conspiracy?

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