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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Stone


    Our country's foreign policy is shifting. Cheney realized the mistakes of Bush I's administration in leaving Saddam in power. Cheney then began to push Bush II towards removing Saddam. We are, hopefully, moving towards no longer supporting any regime that uses terrorism.

    A COUNTRY'S FOREIGN POLICY CAN CHANGE.

    A COUNTRY'S FOREIGN POLICY CAN CHANGE.


    (I don't support terrorism. But, as an aside, I have a hard time believing that you're bitching about what the Armenians did to the Turks. It's like an Iraqi bitching about Kurdist separatists.)
    Seriously dude, you don't have to be so obnoxious.

    Our foreign policy acts with an agenda in mind. Power and money happen to be this agenda, and the US is prepared to take any steps it is able in order to achieve this. Any misguided beliefs that our foreign policy shifts due to a sudden "revelation" or "change of heart" are foolish. So while yes, foreign policies CAN change, rest assured it happens because it is no longer seen as a viable source of income and/or power.

  2. Quote Originally Posted by Stone
    Almaci.

    Read this slowly.

    A...COUNTRY'S...FOREIGN...POLICY...CAN...CHANGE.

    A COUNTRY'S FOREIGN POLICY CAN CHANGE.

    A COUNTRY'S FOREIGN POLICY CAN CHANGE.

    We have made mistakes in the past by supporting regimes that support terrorists, or by allowing American citizens to support terrorists (IRA donations, so on).

    We made a mistake by leaving Saddam in power. We may have made a mistake by collaborating with Saddam in the '80s. I don't know, because I can't rewind time, and see what would have happened had we not opposed the USSR's support of Iran.

    Our country's foreign policy is shifting. Cheney realized the mistakes of Bush I's administration in leaving Saddam in power. Cheney then began to push Bush II towards removing Saddam. We are, hopefully, moving towards no longer supporting any regime that uses terrorism.

    A COUNTRY'S FOREIGN POLICY CAN CHANGE.

    A COUNTRY'S FOREIGN POLICY CAN CHANGE.


    (I don't support terrorism. But, as an aside, I have a hard time believing that you're bitching about what the Armenians did to the Turks. It's like an Iraqi bitching about Kurdist separatists.)
    Hey the Turks aint peachy clean at this but neither are Israeli´s with regards to Palestinians yet you deem them terrorists right?

    Anyways you are here telling me that THIS administration is different that it doesnt do the bidding for corporate America like administrations before it, that it DOESNT support totalitarian regimes at the expense of democracies like the ones before them?

    Seems like that IS what you are claiming, in that case tough im sure the presidents of Taiwan and Venezuela would disagree, that the Turkish parlement disagrees and im sure numerous others as well wich we will only find out about in the coming years.

    Face facts you little dipshit, this administration has supported nation building, an attempt at overthrowing a democraticaly elected regime in South America in favour of a millitary dictatorship(it failed), blasts of at Taiwan in favour of Chinese bussuines intrests and is a corporate stoogie like no other administration before(yeah let enron execs roam free and put Martha stewart in jail).

    Youre smarter then this, youre just looking to score a few cheap points with the less eloquant right wing freakazoids on these boards, as you have been doing for a while now.

  3. I think I speak for many people when I say that seeing Martha Stewart in jail would be absolutely wonderful.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Prince Planet
    On your next U.S. tour, make sure to avoid Glendale, California.
    Hey terorism is terorism, slaughtering innocents is slaughtering innocents, no matter what a nation might have done to you to go around and slaughter innocents from that nation or another is undefendable.


    Yet here we have people seemingly thinking that its OK to do that.

    So tell me why you guys arent supportive of African americans and Native Americans killing Caucasian americans then, or not supportive of Palestines blowing themselves up near Israeli targets?

    Gee the hipocrasy here is so thick youd need a shinsu knife to cut trough it.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by diffusionx
    I think I speak for many people when I say that seeing Martha Stewart in jail would be absolutely wonderful.
    How about Kenny boy then who caused tens of thousands of people to lose billions, who cost those people the pensions they had worked decades to aquire, who repeatedly lied to his shareholders and employees and who secretly sold of his shares at full price while stopping his employees from doing the same to safeguard their meager savings?
    All while he was flying around with Bush in his private jet.

  6. Okay Almaci... Ill be dead honest right now.

    I dont want to discuss this topic with you.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by diffusionx
    Okay Almaci... Ill be dead honest right now.

    I dont want to discuss this topic with you.
    Then shut the fuck up or dont reply to MY messages.

  8. Go fuck yourself. I replied to the message I wanted to respond to, and you asked me a question, and I answered it. Im not the one who is out of line here.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Almaci
    Hey terorism is terorism, slaughtering innocents is slaughtering innocents, no matter what a nation might have done to you to go around and slaughter innocents from that nation or another is undefendable.
    Yet here we have people seemingly thinking that its OK to do that.
    So tell me why you guys arent supportive of African americans and Native Americans killing Caucasian americans then, or not supportive of Palestines blowing themselves up near Israeli targets?
    Gee the hipocrasy here is so thick youd need a shinsu knife to cut trough it.
    Huh? My post only said to avoid Glendale. But given your post, I'll be happy to drop you off there. Hell, I'll even provide you with a bullhorn.
    "Fiends! Animals! Bastards!"

  10. Seriously dude, you don't have to be so obnoxious.
    Yeah, I do, for the purposes of this board, Almaci is a dense near-illiterate idiot. You need to tell him things a few times before he understands them.

    Hey the Turks aint peachy clean at this but neither are Israeli´s with regards to Palestinians yet you deem them terrorists right?
    That's bullshit, there's a difference between "peachy clean", "not peachy clean", and "being the perpetrators of 'Holocaust: The Prequel'. How many Armenians did the Turks kill? 1 million? It was WWI's version of the Holocaust, with Christians instead of Jews and Muslim Turks instead of Germans. There were a lot of Americans back then who wanted to do something to help the Armenians while the Turks were slaughtering them - in that case, isolationism won, and Armenians got butchered as a result.

    I don't support terrorism. I would rather America had saved Armenians from the Turks in the same way that we saved Iraqis from Saddam. However, there were people who could be called terrorists amongst the Jews in Germany, and amongst Americans in pre-Revolutionary America.

    The difference between
    -Jews, Revolutionary Americans, and Armenians.
    and
    -the Iraqi 'freedom fighters' using kids for cover in a gunfight, or those Palestinian terrorists?

    Motive? Methods? Something you wouldn't understand, with your completely-fucked world view.


    Blah blah you're smarter than this
    EAT...A...DICK. You're a worthless piece of shit who joins the worst aspects of the extreme left and extreme right, supports terrorism, evidently denies Armenian genocide, and seems to support Iran's islamofascist government.

    Hey terorism is terorism, slaughtering innocents is slaughtering innocents, no matter what a nation might have done to you to go around and slaughter innocents from that nation or another is undefendable.
    I don't believe in the death penalty, ever.

    However, I'd rather see a murderer get executed by the state than someone who shoots a criminal who is trying to rape the shooter's wife, and, hell, I'd rather see the guy who defended his wife get executed than a woman get stoned to death for taking her burqua off. Degrees.

    There are degrees of wrongness - Armenian terrorists vs. Turks is at one level, Palestinians vs. Israeli soldiers is at another, Al Qaeda vs. American officeworkers. The methods are wrong, the motives might be right.

    What do you believe, Almaci? When is terrorism okay? Do you think that terrorism is never right? Do you think it's okay in some cases? Does that include Palestinian terrorism? What about the World Trade Center attack? Justified because of American hypocrisy?

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