Why GC is more "powerful" than XBox

[Mzo]

I read his posts and disagree with his opinions, but before I can reply I see that sig and it just takes the fight out of me.

[Diff-chan]

And most GC games don't have it, so it's a moot point.

The GameCube is the easiest system to do a lot of things with, but most developers that aren't Nintendo don't bother because it sucks and no one buys any games for it.

Nintendo doesnt bother either, their games are complete shit and the only good ones are made by Sega or Texans.

[Tommy Tallarico]

diffusionx is right.

[AstroBlue]

Nintendo doesnt bother either, their games are complete shit and the only good ones are made by Sega or Texans.

What about Kirby's Air Ride?

OMG PWNED!!

[Spike]

The following is a listing of all games on the Cube that support progressive scan:


GC 007: NightFire
GC 1080* Avalance
GC Aggressive Inline
GC Animal Crossing
GC Auto Modellista
GC Beach Spikers
GC Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
GC Burnout
GC Burnout 2
GC Cel Damage
GC Cubivore: Survival of the Fittest
GC Darkened Skye
GC Die Hard: Vendetta
GC Enter The Matrix
GC Eternal Darkness
GC FIFA Soccer 2003
GC F-Zero Gx
GC GameBoy Player
GC Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters Melee
GC Gotcha Force
GC Home Run King
GC Ikaruga
GC I-Ninja
GC Kirby Air Ride
GC Legend Of Zelda Ocarina Of Time Bonus Disc
GC Legend of Zelda: Collectors Edition
GC Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
GC Luigi's Mansion
GC Madden 2002
GC Madden NFL 2004
GC Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
GC Mario Kart Double Dash
GC Mario Party 4
GC Mario Party 5
GC Mario Sunshine Import
GC Mary-Kate and Ashley: Sweet 16
GC Metal Arms: Glitch in the System
GC Metroid Prime
GC Mr. Driller Drill Land
GC Mystic Heroes
GC Mystic Warriors
GC NASCAR: Dirt to Daytona
GC NASCAR: Thunder 2003
GC NBA 2K3
GC NCAA College Basketball 2K3
GC Need for Speed Underground
GC NFL 2K3
GC Nintendo Puzzle Collection
GC P.N.03
GC Pac-Man Vs.
GC PC Genjin
GC Phantasy Star Online 1&2
GC Pikmin
GC Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
GC R: Racing evolution
GC Rally Championship
GC Robotech Battlecry
GC Rogue Leader 3: Rebel Strike
GC Sega Soccer Slam
GC Shikigami no shiro II
GC Smugglers Run
GC Sonic Adventure 2
GC Sonic Heroes
GC Soul Caliber 2
GC Soul Calibur II
GC Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy
GC Splinter Cell
GC SSX 3
GC Star Fox Adventures
GC Star Soldier
GC Star Wars: Bounty Hunter
GC Star Wars: Rogue Leader
GC Super Mario Sunshine
GC Super Monkey Ball 2
GC Super Smash Bros. Melee
GC The Simpsons Hit and Run
GC Tony Hawk 4
GC Tony Hawk`s Underground
GC True Crime: Streets of LA
GC Vexx
GC Viewtiful Joe
GC Wario World
GC Wave Race: Blue Storm
GC Whirl Tour
GC Winning Eleven 6 FE
GC Worms Blast

Now add in that every game playable on the GB Player, and you'll see that the Cube ProScan > Xbox ProScan.

[/asshole mode]

Nintendo doesnt bother either, their games are complete shit and the only good ones are made by Sega or Texans.

Just like the only good game on the Xbox is Halo, right?

[Jeremy]

And Shenmue II, don't forget that. And that prog scan listing is impressive, kudos to those who can make use of it.

[MariJ]

That statement right there kinda makes me not take him so seriously. It's cpu is not faster, it's achitecture is a drain on the cpu, so many games run at twice the framerate on the GC.

Let's use more reputable figures for comparison.

http://macspeedzone.com/archive/4.0/...acSPECint.html

SPECint95 SPECfp95
G3/450Mhz 20.0 13.3
Pentium III/600Mhz 24.0 15.9

Scaled estimates
Gekko/485Mhz 21.55 14.33
XCPU/733Mhz 29.32 19.42

The PowerPC chips are a bit more efficient per clock, but the custom Celeron/PIII mix in the Xbox has a good deal more clocks to play with. It's not an exact comparision as XCPU has less cache than a Coppermine Pentium III and IBM's Gekko is based off their 750cx with some added features. But it's still better than multiplying clock by instruction width.

[Omni]

Alright, so when they say that the N64 is 64 bits, they're talking about the size of the data stream I'm guessing?

[Master]

There are nearly twice as many games on Xbox that are proscan. It is also the only system with true DD surround sound. If you have a nice Home Theatre setup, Xbox crushes Gamecube. If you disagree you are a liar and a fanboy. And wrong. Completely.

Come up with all the "padded" facts you want. That won't change the facts.

Nothing has been proven in this thread. We need to just let it die.

[Dyne]

oh there has been plenty proven in this thread. most importantly how people on this board can twist facts to make them look "less wrong"