Democratic Primary Discussion Thread

[burgundy]

ok, but that is tremendously unfair, Truman mentioned that he prayed for guidence before dropping the bomb on hiroshima and nagasaki, and if you look, you will find that most world leaders, regardless of the depth of their religious convictions, will say that they prayed on the subject, its just human nature before making a monumental decision too make an appeal to the highest authority that you feel connected to, its hardly as specific to bush as you point it out to be. the bottom line is that yes, if any of the ostensably christian influenced (or, correctly-interpreted muslim for that matter) truely looked at their faith, they would have no army outside of a strictly defensive force, but that is one of the perks of seperation of church and state, church is fully pacifistic, state must provide for their defence, but anyone who is religious will pray for guidence before making a decision of this level. your prior post makes it sound like bush was launching a crusade not reflecting on his faith before commiting to a military action against a repressive dictator. you can do better than that, bring reality to the plate, not slander and straw-men.

I think his ass should start praying for $477 BILLION DOLLARS.

[Calliander]

I think his ass should start praying for $477 BILLION DOLLARS.

How can God give anyone money when you go to church and they pass the basket around? God is terrible with money, he really needs an accountant, badly. I don't see how God could afford to be handing out cash.

But if Dubya gets that money, you can count me in as a Christian. I'll be praying every day!

[burgundy]

I do think he'll go negative when his poll numbers don't move much.

I'm shocked he's held out this long.

We get attacked by terrorists and now we're using it as an motivation for reduction of civil rights and an excuse for aggression against other countries?

Funny you should mention this, as this connection crossed my mind as early as September 11, 2001.

[Calliander]

Moderate to Conservative Democrat President, Conservative Congress. That's the way it ought to be.

Worked with Clinton.

Funny you should mention this, as this connection crossed my mind as early as September 11, 2001.

Me too, I just didn't want to list it first.

[burgundy]

And they also handed him an economy that was already sinking and a dotcom bubble that already burst.

And then two planes flew into the World Trade Center.

The democrats also handed Dubya a shitload of documents and testimonials about Iraq's nuclear weapons capabilities.

Just sayin'.

Some of this would make some sense if his dumb ass didn't proceed to CUT taxes when they clearly should have been INCREASED.

Still waiting to hear why the hell I should be comfortable with a deficit of $477 BILLION DOLLARS.

[Calliander]

$477 BILLION DOLLARS

You ought to use that as your custom title.

[StriderKyo]

ok, but that is tremendously unfair, Truman...

Stop right there. Those two situations don't even compare.

your prior post makes it sound like bush was launching a crusade

For crying out loud, he is.

[Calliander]

For crying out loud, he is.

He said so, himself.

[Diff-chan]

Some of this would make some sense if his dumb ass didn't proceed to CUT taxes when they clearly should have been INCREASED.

Still waiting to hear why the hell I should be comfortable with a deficit of $477 BILLION DOLLARS.

You shouldnt be comfortable about it. I think its awful, myself. I could handle a deficit but not one that big.

But you know, when you have Baby Boomers in office they are gonna protect Baby Boomers.

[burgundy]

Only three Presidents have presided over such ridiculously high deficits. One of them was named Reagan and the other two were named Bush.

Everyone shits their pants at the mention of the word "taxes," so Bush can irresponsibly cut taxes and get votes. He's buying your votes with your own money, minus interest.

If you think the deficit is awful, you should factor it into your vote. Unless you think Kerry can possibly mismanage the budget as bad as Bush, and history says he won't.