Final Fantasy VII Advent Children

[Zerohero]

I think more of the story will be told via Vin'z game as well as the anime movies along with it.

Honestly, I think Spirits Within was better. That at least tried to be a movie instead of a really long cutscene.

Did you know that the creator said the project was original a 30min skit? Then they saw the potential and made it a movie.

[x2y]

I loved the movie, watched it twice now.

[sethsez]

Did you know that the creator said the project was original a 30min skit? Then they saw the potential and made it a movie.

Yep. Sadly, the potential was a mirage.

[mollipen]

I think we have to keep a few things in mind here.

First, it was a 1 hour 30 minute or so movie. You can't compare that to a 50+ hour game. There's no way you can go to all of these locations and bring in all of these characters, and try to give them all equal time without the movie being an utter mess. Had they done that, then people would be bitching that they tried to do too much, and that they should have concentrated on a few of those characters. If this were a TV series, or something like that, I'd be there for you.

Second, FFVII's story (game wise) was a convoluted mess. I'm glad they didn't try to match that in the movie. Yeah, it would have been nice to see the ending of the game more fleshed out, but could that even really be done? If you make a movie about the final fall of the world, you aren't going to bring in the FFVII cast, and that isn't what people wanted to see. People wanted to see Cloud and Tifa and everybody else.

I think people are expecting too much from this movie. They didn't have the time to either give all of the characters and places on the world worthy screentime, and they also didn't have the time to create a whole new story and get it fleshed out while fitting it into the elements the game had created. Again, you can't expect the same thing from a sub-two hour movie that you do from a 50+ hour game.

[Zerohero]

I think we have to keep a few things in mind here.

First, it was a 1 hour 30 minute or so movie. You can't compare that to a 50+ hour game. There's no way you can go to all of these locations and bring in all of these characters, and try to give them all equal time without the movie being an utter mess. Had they done that, then people would be bitching that they tried to do too much, and that they should have concentrated on a few of those characters. If this were a TV series, or something like that, I'd be there for you.

Second, FFVII's story (game wise) was a convoluted mess. I'm glad they didn't try to match that in the movie. Yeah, it would have been nice to see the ending of the game more fleshed out, but could that even really be done? If you make a movie about the final fall of the world, you aren't going to bring in the FFVII cast, and that isn't what people wanted to see. People wanted to see Cloud and Tifa and everybody else.

I think people are expecting too much from this movie. They didn't have the time to either give all of the characters and places on the world worthy screentime, and they also didn't have the time to create a whole new story and get it fleshed out while fitting it into the elements the game had created. Again, you can't expect the same thing from a sub-two hour movie that you do from a 50+ hour game.

What I've been saying all day.

[sethsez]

Most 90 minute movies I've seen have infinitely better plots and more well-rounded characters than the 50 hour FFVII. I'm not comparing this to FFVII anyway, I'm comparing it to other movies, and as a movie it's pretty blah.

[Shin Johnpv]

Again, you can't expect the same thing from a sub-two hour movie that you do from a 50+ hour game.

no but I can expect it A. Not to suck ass story wise and B. to at least have a somewhat deep storyline considering the source material that it is a sequel from

really this was 30 minutes of story here stretched over 100 minutes and it was more than blatant

[mollipen]

I still think people are expecting too much from a CG movie with a guy named Cloud that carries around a sword bigger than him, coming from a company with a known history of not being the best storytellers in the world.

I wanted something that was fun to watch and had cool stuff, and I got exactly what I hoped for. I'm thankful I don't put such high expectations on everything.

[sethsez]

Oh, I went in expecting flashy bullshit and a lame plot and got exactly that. Doesn't make it any better, though.

[Chux]

no but I can expect it A. Not to suck ass story wise and B. to at least have a somewhat deep storyline considering the source material that it is a sequel from

really this was 30 minutes of story here stretched over 100 minutes and it was more than blatant

The story was this....


Cloud lost his will to fight after the Seph battle and losing Aeris, after the lifestream saved the planet from Jenova, Kadaj and Co. wanted to ressurect Jenova/Seph, and they were spirits manifested from the lifestream. Jenova reaching into the world was the Geostigma, and when Kadaj and Co got near them their power amplified, a perfect example is when Kadaj is at Rufus' place and he starts flipping out and you see a glimpse of Seph. By bringing everybody with the geostigma together they were able to have more power, and easily manipulate them(The kids) to their will. Aeris helped in the background, you could tell when Voz or whoever was distracted when he got near the flowers in the church. After Kadaj got Jenova's head which was essentially the Geostigma concentrated, he became Seph, and then the final battle occured again, after Cloud beat him, Kadaj returend to normal, and Seph went back into the lifestream. That's bout all I can think of now, but it's not like it was a shitty story.