Has the Unthinkable Happened?

[bbobb]

Nintendo owns 100% of Retro. They were never 3rd party.

You know... that might be right... Retro was created by Nintendo not purchased weren't they? So yeah.. if that's correct then Metroid Prime is 1st party.

AFAIK, neither Insomniac or Sucker Punch have any level of Sony investment. They can literally make games for whomever they choose, even Nintendo and Microsoft.

Hmmmm... I knew Sucker Punch was seperate in the past... but I thought Sony bought into them. Also I thought Sony put some money into Insomniac as well... but I may be wrong.

[Sl1p]

When Microsoft is churning out better games than you are, you're in big trouble.

Crimson Skies, Top Spin, Rallisport Challenge, Amped 2 (Nowhere near SSX3, but leagues beyond 1080), Project Gotham Racing 2...Lots of pretty good stuff. I would even take Voodoo Vince over Mario Sunshine based upon personality and it's random, original moments alone. Though to be fair, both got repetitive at almost the same point.

I have enjoyed 3 Nintendo made games in this entire generation. Wario Ware, Pokemon Channel and Metroid Prime. That last one was created by a bunch of Yankee blue jeans in Texas for crying out loud..

Everything else has been nothing but dissapointment or attempts to cash in on child hood memories (The mario advance series..). I forgot who originally said it around here, but I'd like to modify the quote. The releases of _______ by Nintendo should be viewed as acts of terrorism.

They just need to stop and go back to making playing cards or straighten themselves up. It's just sad at this point.

PS: Yes, Sony churns out better stuff than they do too. Does Harmonix count?

[bbobb]

That last one was created by a bunch of Yankee blue jeans in Texas for crying out loud..

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You love MS American made games, but god forbid that Nintendo have something made by Americans?

[Despair]

Yes, Nintendo sucks, but they're still better as a first party than Sony.

Animal Crossing + Metroid Prime > Ico + any of Sony's generic platformers.

Yeah, Whatever.

[Roufuss]

or attempts to cash in on child hood memories (The mario advance series..).

The advance games are targeted to two things: people who have a gba and remember the classics but aren't "hardcore" enough to have their old nes's and games, and the kids who are younger and have never played these games.

We're not really the target audience when it comes to ports of older games.

[Mzo]

Yet I bought them all anyway.

[jarrod]

When Microsoft is churning out better games than you are, you're in big trouble.

Crimson Skies, Top Spin, Rallisport Challenge, Amped 2 (Nowhere near SSX3, but leagues beyond 1080), Project Gotham Racing 2...Lots of pretty good stuff. I would even take Voodoo Vince over Mario Sunshine based upon personality and it's random, original moments alone. Though to be fair, both got repetitive at almost the same point.

Top Spin (Power & Magic), Rllisport (Dice),PGR2 (Bizarre Creations) and Voodoo Vince (Bleep) were all done by 3rd parties.

PS: Yes, Sony churns out better stuff than they do too. Does Harmonix count?

Not if we're talking about Sony as developer.

[Sl1p]

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You love MS American made games, but god forbid that Nintendo have something made by Americans?

Haha! You totally missed the point you FOOLISH AMERICAN LOLZ~

We're not really the target audience when it comes to ports of older games.

Yet I hear about a bunch of TNL'ers buying them anyways..the above is a good example

[MechDeus]

Jinkies!

[jarrod]

Really though, I'll reiterate that nobody can touch Nintendo's 1st party GBA portfolio overall...

-Advance Wars (Intelligent Systems)
-Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising (Intelligent Systems)
-Densetsu no Stafi (RD1/Tose Software)
-Densetsu no Stafi 2 (RD1/Tose Software)
-Dokodemo Taikyoku: Yakuman Advance (NdCube)
-Domo-Kun no Fushigi Terebi (Suzac)
-EZ-Talk (NdCube)
-F-Zero: Falcon Desetsu (Suzac)
-F-Zero: Maximum Velocity (NdCube)
-Fire Emblem (Intelligent Systems)
-Fire Emblem: Fuuin no Tsurugi (Intelligent Systems)
-Game & Watch Gallery 4 (RD1/Tose Software)
-Hamtaro: Ham Ham Heartbreak (EAD)
-Hamtaro: Rainbow Rescue (Alpha Dream)
-Kirby: Nightmare in Dream Land (Hal Labratory)
-Kirby: Kagami no Daimeikyuu (Hal Labratory)
-Koro Koro Puzzle: Happy Panechu! (RD2)
-Kuru Kuru Kururin (EAD/Eighting)
-Kururin Paradise (EAD/Eighting)
-Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past w/ The Four Swords (RD2/Capcom Studio 1)
-Magical Vacation (Brownie Brown)
-Mario and Donkey Kong (NST)
-Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga (Alpha Dream)
-Mario Kart Super Circuit (Intelligent Systems)
-Metroid Fusion (RD1)
-Metroid: Zero Mission (RD1)
-Mother 1+2 (EAD)
-Mother 3 (EAD?)
-Napoleon (EAD/Genki)
-Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire (Game Freak)
-Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green (Game Freak)
-Sakura Momoko no UkiUki Carnival (SPD)
-Super Mario Advance (RD2)
-Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World (RD2)
-Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island (RD2)
-Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (RD2)
-Sword of Mana (Brownie Brown/Square Enix Division 8)
-Tomato Adventure (Alpha Dream)
-Wario Land 4 (RD1)
-WarioWare Inc.: Mega MicroGame$ (RD1)

...I'd say Nintendo's lackluster Gamecube output is mainly due to an apparent drop EAD's offerings and focusing on western studios to try a make it up (Retro Studios, Silicon Knights, etc). Meanwhile, teams like Intelligent Systems and RD1 are making some of the best games available right now.... there's more to "Nintendo" than simply EAD. People forget that.