Why, I think, Nintendo has not lost its touch

[Jeremy]

I know about that, but I'm just saying that it'd be awesome to have downloadable games within a game.

[gamevet]

See, when they do decide to release an online service, it will cost a lot of money. And they will lose cash. At first. If you're smart about it you'll make it back (look at Sony with EQ).

And, while they could go full force and release an excellent service, I dont see them doing because, because (A) they cant gouge the customer, (B) it seems they're totally unwilling to invest the money, (C) Miyamato, that git, is probably convincing the upper ranks that you cant make money from it, (D) they have no prior experience with online gaming, and no Satallaview doesnt count... MS has Zone and Sony has Station (and even with that look at how shitty PS2 online is), (E) theyve shown no inclination to do it yet... just look at how crappy the LAN hookup features in Double Dash were... no character selection, for heaven's sake, (F) people are still completely willing to buy their shit/non-online games like Double Dash or whatever.

EQ was a success on PC, but on the PS2 it's a total flop.


I don't think it has anything to do with gouging the customer. It's more about a return for their efforts. Sega could'nt do it with the DC and Sony is'nt exactly pulling in cash barrels with thier PS2 online service either. Sure Live is a success in the US, but what about Japan, or Europe? Nintendo's interest starts in their homeland and goes from there, much like MS's starts in the US.


What percentage of console gamers are playing online, compared to PC gamers? It's a lot easier to just log on with the PC, then to drag a cable across your living room. I'm sure a lot of posters on these forums are willing to do that, but is the average joe going to, when it's more convenient to get their online fix with their PC.


Yeah, I'd love to see games like Double Dash, F-Zero and Animal crossing with full online content, but realistically it's just a niche market, until most homes in the US have a Cat.5 cable running from a switch to every bedroom/livingroom in America.

[Roufuss]

Yeah, I'd love to see games like Double Dash, F-Zero and Animal crossing with full online content, but realistically it's just a niche market, until most homes in the US have a Cat.5 cable running from a switch to every bedroom/livingroom in America.

Xbox Live does very good for a "niche market", and I feel more people would take advantage of online gaming if they could play stuff like Mario Kart and FF:CC (I feel the bigger more well known names would attract people over something like, Crimson Skies).

I know that me, personally, would have worn out my copies of MK: DD and F-Zero if they were online, but for now, they sit in the corner because MK D in particular dosen't have anything else to offer me. If FF:CC was online, i'd pick it up in a heartbeat, but for now I'm skipping it until it's around 10-15.

The hilarious thing is that Nintendo just asked readers, in the newest issue of NP, "which of our franchises would be good with an online aspect?".

I couldn't help but laugh.

[Drewbacca]

I personally would rather have one update of OoT and Wind Waker than 95% of anything out there on the market. With that being said though, I would like other games like Mario, Rebel Strike and Smash Bros. to evolutionize themselves further then they did last year.

I don't even want mascots. I did enjoy a lot of the Gamecube games this year, though. I'm not going to list them... because lists are dumb.

diff: calm down man. these kids don't know.

[frostwolf ex]

oy, clearly online is very important to some of you guys, it used to be for me when pso came out for the dreamcast, but by the death of the dreamcast i came to one, unavoidable conclusion, online is a very convenient way to be put at the mercy of a lot of dickheads who will use their ample free time to make exploits to ruin the game for people who enjoy playing the game fairly. mmo's are an exercise in pure boredom within a weeks,and my experience with cvs2 online was that it was totally unplayable due to the lag so frankly, online, while a fun diversion, is not something i find as a requisite for gaming enjoyment. nintendo's treatment of pso was deplorable, and i am angry about the keyboard situation, but frankly, i havent been impressed enough with x-box live games to say that any of them were more fun than nintendo's first party games. you can only get a 15 year old screaming obscinities in your ear for so long before you realize that right now online gaming on consoles really is not that fun.

edit, though i conceed, double dash and chronicles would be fun online.

[Diff-chan]

EQ was a success on PC, but on the PS2 it's a total flop.

Because it's shit. But my point was made: it is possible to make money on online gaming. Miyamato and whoever else at Nintendo who believes you cant make money with online gaming is wrong, stupid, or both (I bet on both).

[Jeremy]

They don't believe THEY can make money with online gaming yet, not others. There's a world of difference.

[cigsthecat]

So, and I say this with all seriousness, shut the fuck up.

How about you shut the fuck up and stop insulting people for no reason, you fucking sack of repeating shit.

[Diff-chan]

Oh no. cigsthe cat yelled at me and hurt my feelings.

And way to rip off Tollbooth Willie, you knob.

[Josh]

I think I'm one of the few who really loves the GB Player.

Well yeah... you're blind.