Right on.Originally Posted by Cheebs
Glad to hear that you enjoyed 1st and like 2nd films![]()
Right on.Originally Posted by Cheebs
Dolemite, the Bad-Ass King of all Pimps and Hustlers
Gymkata: I mean look at da lil playah woblin his way into our hearts in the sig awwwwwww
I recently saw this movie, and I've got to say it is the nail in the Blade's coffin, as far as movies go anyway. Blade 2 was a solid action movie, but definitely put a damper on the legwork the original Blade movie had layed down before it. Blade was suave, developed, and collected in the original. The relationship between the girl, Blade, Whistler and the villains were given time to establish and flourish and because of this we cared about what happened. The movie was a success in relationship and action. The next one was not.
In the second movie they didn't spend too much time redeveloping the Blade-Whistler relationship and dove straight into the Blade - Vampire alliance, which was alright. We had already seen them form their relationship so we didn't mind the quick re-establishment. But then the movie throws eight or nine mercenary vampires at you. It asks you to forget about what they are and think about the story and action. I did that, and it worked. The only two characters you began to care about were Blade's love interest and Ron Pearlman. Everyone else was painted with a coat of apathy. Everybody else in the group of 8 or so could have been killed off horribly and nobody would've cared, and that's exactly what happened. Disappinting? Yes it was. But Blade 2 delivered well choreographed fight sequences that weren't marred with quick cuts. It was a shame, but we could live with it, and even the story began to grow on you as the twist unfolded.
Blade: Trinity, the movie that should have returned the series to its former glory, was a train wreck. It pretty much completely destroyed any hopes of the series returning to its prime. They made a few moves right that made you hope for the best. First, the villain couldn't of been a better choice in Dracula. What better way to return a vampire film to its roots than with the classic vampire villain Dracula? After this they hired a decent actor to play the part. That is the extent of what they did correctly. Instead of building up Dracula to be a bad ass in a methodical method they gave us 3 scenes in which Dracula and Blade meet for no purpose other than having a good old english chit chat. Dracula didn't toy with anybody, he didn't stick to the shadows, there was no classic thrall involved. All of it was essentially Dracula being a big hoss, with a hint of chivalry thrown in at the end to explain why he uses swords and to write a way for Blade to survive this horrible script intact.
My main complaint about the entire movie was the musical score. It was bad, I mean, it was god awful. The entire movie was ruined by techno music. I can take a few techno scenes, but every single action scene involved slow motion and loud techno music. If you look at each scene of this movie and hold your ears it instantly becomes better. There was also a classical track near the end when the sun is rising (oh elementary metaphor, thank god for you) that stood out like a soar thumb. They had gone to great lengths to make the Nightstalkers seem hip and fresh, giving us a taste of the new music and then completely copped out with the finish.
If you're going to buy the DVD, watch the fight sequence between Drake and Blade, turn the sound down and imagine the fight taking place with only the sound effects. It's more effective and cuts the fat off.
Deacon Frost was built up to be so sinister. His intention was not just to destroy the savior of man, but rather to help his own people. He was fighting prejudice of his own and it made us care about him a little bit more. Dracula was given a puffy shift and bad dialogue. The scene where Frost pulls the mans teeth out before the sunrise reminds of of how diabolical a villain he was. Where was Dracula's scene lik this? Frost was more bad ass than Dracula, and that's a sin.
Dracula is a novel character because he tempted people, a characteristic associated with satan and true evil. In this movie he did absolutely nothing. The only scene of consequence that he was given was when he infiltrated the Nightstalker headquarters in the glamour of old man Whistler. This was a good idea, something evil dressed up as something very familiar. The only problem was each of these characters were fodder that weren't developed. Two of the characters weren't even seen being killed. Hedgehog was the most built up, and he wasn't given any time. So Drake kills off a bunch of characters we felt nothing for and that's about it.
Also, what happened to the police presence in the movie? At the beginning the cops were made into goofy pawns (hyuk hyuks). But they were developed to seem a major factor in either helping Blade, or being a huge obstacle. And then nothing happens. We find out one is corrupt, and all he gets for his trouble is shot in the back, without any of the other cops even knowing who he truly was.
Most of the major damage dealt in the fight doesn't leave a visceral sensation with the viewer, and that's a problem for an action oriented movie. The major fight scene should have been fight scenes. Hannibal King vs. Triple H was a nice little warm up fight and the ending to it was cool (brains over brawn). Instead of giving it proper time it was paired with generic technobeat and spliced between the major showdown of Blade and Drake.
Drake and Blade seemed like they could have put on an entertaining fight, since both were supposed to be extremely bad ass demons in their own right. Drake proved nothing in the fight except that he was a one dimensional hoss. Again, instead of being given some free screentime to act out the fight they were given techno music in the background and the entire thing was spliced with what should have been a secondary fight scene (Drake vs. Blade should have owned H vs. King. It didn't, they were about equal).
The best and most entertaining part about the entire movie, and it's only redeeming quality was Ryan Reynolds being hilarious. It didn't really fit, and really lightened up the mood, but the movie wouldn't've had anything without him. Why did everyone shout the word fuck as though they had some sort of bizarre syndrome?
This movie was terrible. I'd give it 1 out of 4 stars if I rated movies, probably .5 stars.
Last edited by Drewbacca; 12 Jan 2005 at 05:03 PM.
Originally Posted by rezo
Good post, Andrew.
Dolemite, the Bad-Ass King of all Pimps and Hustlers
Gymkata: I mean look at da lil playah woblin his way into our hearts in the sig awwwwwww
I know.
Originally Posted by rezo
So you claim.
Dolemite, the Bad-Ass King of all Pimps and Hustlers
Gymkata: I mean look at da lil playah woblin his way into our hearts in the sig awwwwwww
Indeed (this thread will never die if it lives on in our hearts, which it won't)
Originally Posted by rezo
Nor should it. That's what the FvJ thread is for.
Dolemite, the Bad-Ass King of all Pimps and Hustlers
Gymkata: I mean look at da lil playah woblin his way into our hearts in the sig awwwwwww
okay so how much did this movie gross? it was on one screen with full times for about a week here (out of 18 screens), then relegated to half of its showings the rest of its time at full price and now sits at the dollar theatre with one showtime. yeah....one. did it bomb that bad? i have yet to see it![]()
Yes. But it wasn't as bad as Catwoman or Elektra.
Originally Posted by rezo
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