Anti-Gay Marriage Constitutional Amendments?

[bbobb]

It isn't simply a matter of semantics. Without turning this into a TNL Religious Bitch Fight™®, Marriage is (or is supposed to be) a holy institution supported, sanctioned, and blessed by God and His church. Civil unions are institutions supported and sanctioned by law and the government. And therin is the problem most people, including Bush have with gay marriage. That people are trying to use God's name as license for sin.

The difference is more than just in name alone. If the government wants to sponsor and support civil unions, by all means. I'm willing to bet that most people, including the religious right, would be all for it. Just keep God's name out of it and everybody is happy.

This further backs my desire to get rid of state sponsored marriage. Keep your God's name out of my government. You take your God's name out of this and I'll be quite happy, but as long as the state is sponsoring it then I don't see any religious arguement against Gay Marriage and yet for Civil Unions as valid.

Our Deistic fore fathers made it a point to keep religious references out of the constitution and I'd prefer to keep it that way.

[Damian79]

Then are all non-christians forbiden to be married as well?

No, only the heathens aren't to be married!

What about the churches that let gay couple's marry?

HEATHENS!!



Though seriously, from a biblical stand point homosexuality(ie the act) is stated to be "an abomination" to God. People can twist anything in the bible by selectively using single sentences, like that German bishop(I forgot his name) justified killing of the Jews during Hitler's reign using John's Gospel.

I think the real issue is the use ofa Christian ritual for something un-Christian.



And any Christian who condemn's anyone else doesn't understand core Christianity. The core of Christianity is to forgive everyone, and let God sort them out.

[Jeremy]

I'm a Christian, but that has nothing to do with my viewpoint on this issue, which is mainly that anyone should be able to marry anyone they want to. Matthew Good summed it up pretty well on his site (www.matthewgood.org) the other day by posting a "Marriage is love" entry.

[Captain Vegetable]

And any Christian who condemn's anyone else doesn't understand core Christianity. The core of Christianity is to forgive everyone, and let God sort them out.

The "core" of Christianity is to Love Jesus Christ, do as He would do, and worship God (Jesus) in all things that you do and say. To bring glory to Him by preaching His gospel and following His laws, to allow Him controll over your life that you might be given the ability to do so, and to love Him like none other.

The core of Humanism is "to forgive everyone, and not to condemn them."

There's a HUGE difference.

[g0zen]

The core of Humanism is "to forgive everyone, and not to condemn them."

There's a HUGE difference.

There are several branches of Humanism, but I think the one we're talking about here is Modern Humanism which is best defined as; "a naturalistic philosophy that rejects all supernaturalism and relies primarily upon reason and science, democracy and human compassion."

I don't think it's fair to lump human compassion with lackadaisical sense of morality.

[Captain Vegetable]

I suppose you're right, g0zen, but I'm sure you can see where my illustration is going. My goal was not to defame Humanism, but to define Christianity correctly.

My apologies if I offended you with my words.

[g0zen]

Man, don't get all lovey-dovey on me now. That freaks me out more than you hating me. I wasn't trying to one-up you there, just make both sides of the coin clearer..

[Captain Vegetable]

But . . . but I thought we had something. You know, something.

And for the record, I've never hated you, man. I just get a kick out of rubbing you the wrong way.

[Calliander]

Some people are fun to tick off.

Take, for instance, me. All you have to do is say, "CENSORSHIP!" and then I turn into a rabid attack dog.

[Captain Vegetable]

CENSORSHIP!