TIME magazine looks at the popularity of games.

[Shapermc]

While from a broad perspective of the average consumer (not necessarily a gamer) this is a pretty good article. You have to remember that the knowledge of the TNLer is way above the norm.

This is not a recent article. I just finally got access to a scanner to get this scanned. It was the second good article that I have seen in time about gaming. I also listen to NPR at work and home and occasionally they have an excellent piece on gaming.


One in recent memory was about a parallel between how story telling in gaming is similar to how fantasy writing started with King Arthur stories. This really caught my interest as it made references to the fact that it took over 100 years for people to start looking at fantasy as a serious form of writing yet gaming has done more than that in 20 year from "Save the Princess" to "Max Payne 2" and "ICO". I wish I could have found the audio transcript of this piece from NPR, but I never saw it.

Nonetheless this entire thread is really about how the Media is starting to finally look at gaming in a positive light. It goes beyond the average "Games are too violent" or "Doom results in X". I like the way that things are going for gaming and hope that my parallels that I have drawn (and posted about previously) between Movies and how they progressed are true.

Attached is the article for your perusal. Also HERE is another pretty good article that is a little deeper than most.

[bbobb]

NPR Stuff:

Tavis Smiley talkes to a guy about games growing in influence :http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1745716
Tavis is annoying but the guy he speaks to is good.

All Things Considered - Discussion on literary aspects of videogames: http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1814855

Day to Day - how videogames can be used to teach war and peace:
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1380580

[Shapermc]

All Thing's Considered - Discussion on literary aspects of videogames: http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1814855

This is the one. Excellent! Thanks.

[Bacon McShig]

All Thing's Considered

All of of Thing's what are being considered?

[Shapermc]

It is just the name of the program that it was on.

[Diff-chan]

Unfortunately, though, discussions of what the media thinks of games dont really matter. Neither does the old "are games art?" argument, especially when argued by amateurs.

What developers should be doing is laying down a theoretical framework for game design (as I discussed on an earlier, pre-ban thread). Then game design can really take off and we can make really amazing advances in design.

[Shapermc]

Unfortunately, though, discussions of what the media thinks of games dont really matter. Neither does the old "are games art?" argument, especially when argued by amateurs.

What developers should be doing is laying down a theoretical framework for game design (as I discussed on an earlier, pre-ban thread). Then game design can really take off and we can make really amazing advances in design.

True, it really does not matter. But it does help with awarness. I can bet you that at least one person who saw that article or heard that "all things considered" and thought he will go out an pick up an PS2 and some games to see what it is all about. There is alot that one person can do.

It is nice to see things "gaming" being taken seriously.

[Zerodash]

I just hope the games industry gets big and diverse enough to still support "hardcore" games...similar to the "artsy" films that only the big-time film buffs like. How many times have you seen Ebert & Whoever give two thumbs up to films no one has heard about?

[Zerodash]

I just hope the games industry gets big and diverse enough to still support "hardcore" games...similar to the "artsy" films that only the big-time film buffs like. How many times have you seen Ebert & Whoever give two thumbs up to films no one has heard about?

[Saint of Killers]

It is just the name of the program that it was on.

He's giving bbobb shit for his grammar.