Official: Battlefield 2

[MVS]

Engineer is the Jackhammer, auto-shotty. Great in close, 7 rounds, shit at distance. I don't have it, don't play Eng.
SF gets the G36C, which does higher damage, but has iron sights. If you can live with that, it's big improvement over the M4 and a slight improvement over the AK74.
Anti-tank gets the DAO-12, a revolver-type shotgun (auto), it has the same issues as the Eng one, (distance sucks, close rules, 7 rounds).

I reccomend the G36C, especially now that you get 1 point for every enemy CO asset you C4.

I have them all save for the Eng one, some are better than others:
Medic - L85 - Great single shot for distance, not so good 3+ round scoped, decent.
Support - PKM - Brutal. Does something like 47 dmg per hit, but you basically need to be proned every time, and shoot in 5-8 round bursts.
Assault - G3 - Useless. Sure, it does 40-something damage, but you only got 20 rounds, versus 30 for any other rifle, and, worse, you lose the grenade launcher. Not worth it.
Sniper - M95 - Bolt action .50 cal. Will shoot through helicopter glass. Everyone has it now. :/

[Error]

Awesome. Thanks.

[toxic]

I got to play for an hour last night.

I'm at about 18,000 points. But not once did I get promoted, even though my "bar" shows as full for Sergeant. Kind of strange.

The little touches are the nicest. Spawn points with names, showing who is in vehicles with you, the new sounds (APC turret, engine noises, etc).

Like MVS said ... everyone seems alot deadlier now that everyone has multiple unlocks. I kind of prefered the old system of ranking, they just needed to bring down the higher ends of it to make it reachable in one's lifetime.

[Destro777]

they just needed to bring down the higher ends of it to make it reachable in one's lifetime.

They did it for that reason, and they also did it cause the expansion is coming out soon. They dont want us playing BF2, chipping away at getting new unlocks. For alot of people, they would have no reason for buying the new expansion.

[Spent]

There are some major issues:

1) Promotions were radically scaled back (I mean massively).
I was at 24670 EXP, 230 away from the 3rd unlock, which was Sergent.
I logged on after patch and was promoted 4 times!

This is the bullshit I was afraid of - talk about lame.

[Error]

Look, the fact of the matter is while Battlefield 2 is a great game, the rank system was retarded. about 80% of the people who were going to play this game were never going to reach Sargent. I know I wasn't. So that's 2 unlocks at best. And since outside of finding a server that unlocks all weapons theres no way to test them out before unlocking them, you get a situation like I posted above, asking others for help. Ranks have no real meaning in the game outside of unlocks anyway, so its not lame. It's more realistic thats all. The fact that MVS got promoted 4 times in a matter of minutes just goes to show how really out of whack the promotions were in the first place. Now, he should have been promoted all at once through those 4 ranks, but i guess the computer had to score a point after each promotion to activate the next.

[Spent]

I played 42 since its release, Nam for a bit but the 60 soured me, and now 2 since release. The guns were meant as a reward for players who play for an hour maybe a day. The rank system isnt there for casual players or people who don't care - That's what UNRANKED servers are for. If you want a gun - you will play to unlock it - if the game can't hold your interest for that long then why bother with the ranks at all?

For what it's worth - I dont think I would have made it past Sgt for at least a year either but 2 unlocks is more than enough. As for testing the weaps before using them - pick up a kit when you see a gun you want to try.


If you ask me [and no one did, I know] they should have made the weapon unlocks TIME based, not point based. keep the guns and ranks seperate - then everyone wins. A new gun every 2 and a half months since activation of your account.

[MVS]

Look, the fact of the matter is while Battlefield 2 is a great game, the rank system was retarded. about 80% of the people who were going to play this game were never going to reach Sargent. I know I wasn't. So that's 2 unlocks at best. And since outside of finding a server that unlocks all weapons theres no way to test them out before unlocking them, you get a situation like I posted above, asking others for help. Ranks have no real meaning in the game outside of unlocks anyway, so its not lame. It's more realistic thats all. The fact that MVS got promoted 4 times in a matter of minutes just goes to show how really out of whack the promotions were in the first place. Now, he should have been promoted all at once through those 4 ranks, but i guess the computer had to score a point after each promotion to activate the next.

When you get 100% of a rank, you get one point, log out and log in to unlock a weapon. I'm not going to complain that instantly everyone has the same weapons, but it removes all strategy that was there.

The game must rank you up one rank at a time, and the issue for me was that 1.02 I was 300 away from Rank 3 at 25,000, and 1.03 I was 4 ranks above that. I literally have 4 sucessive screenshots that congradulate me on being promoted.

The problem I have, and others have talked about as well, is that they went too far on scaling them down. They were stupid beforehand, and you needed 250,000 to get the 7th and final rank (think how long that takes if you average 100 points in every single game you play), a handfull of people might have played those 2,500 maps to get them. Now, you rank up 6 times against the 3 of the old system. By the time you hit your 7th rank, you are at 4 in the old system.

Did Dice really need to make it so that every map now turns into M95 wars? I played on a 16v16 server last night and counted 9 snipers on our team, all with M95 trying to be l33t s/\/1p3r5.

Pretty weak.

[Destro777]

Too bad snipers can be beaten pretty easily. They'll learn that pretty fast - the m95 ain't going to solve all their problems. Oh and the G3 isn't useless. It kills very fast, almost too fast that it seems cheap. Ive been using that for 2 months now and its the weapon of choice for infantry fighting.

I finally fixed my game after messing with my router for the past 2 evenings. Gained 2 ranks in 2 seconds tonight

[Spent]

He's trying to say that there is no team specific weapons anymore becasue everyone is walking around with their unlocks. Having the teams with different load outs did create strategy and added spice. Now we have a deathmatch like scenario where everyone has the same kits.