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Thread: ESPN NFL 2005 to be released on July 20th

  1. I saw this game at work today. Here are my eyes-on impressions:

    In-game graphics are spectacular, and commentary is very good. It looks like they toned down that shitty "Hi Mom!" type sideline animation from last year.

    But there's something bothersome about presentation. Have you ever heard that theory of robotics that says, as robots get closer and closer to becoming like real people, their flaws will be magnified? Thats what happens when I look at the presentation parts of the game. Like they really did work hard to nail the ESPN feel, and they did a great job, but all that ESPN stuff, just looks kinda ridiculous when paired with the videogame characters. The sideline presentations, which feature a ghastly Suze Kolber (Chris Berman looks terrible, too) and some player, with awful lip-syncing... its just weird and disorienting. As the game comes closer and closer to the ESPN experience, its flaws just get magnified and it becomes easier and easier to see how far away it is from the real thing.

    But hey, they did nice work.

  2. i was watching a clip from the new Madden game and as much as they say they add so much more animation year after year there are still HUGE glaring flaws going from one animation to the next and a lot of times tackles still look like ass. so my summation is that the games look great from screenshots but actual gameplay shows all the seams.

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Kano on the Phone
    Stop flame baiting. Everyone knows you love to find irrational reasons to hate Live, and no one cares. Drop it.
    Yes, being unable to use a service that I'm paying for is a completely irrational reason to dislike it. Apparently, you live in a fantasy land where Xbox Live is completely devoid of problems and/or shortcomings.

    When Sega and MS finally get their shit together and fix things, then I'll drop it. Obviously, they haven't yet though.


    EDIT: For anyone playing on Live, it looks like the problem has just been fixed.

    EDIT 2: Ok, it looks like just the Roster problem was fixed. But the other shit is still broken. Lovely.
    Last edited by Mamoscott; 26 Jul 2004 at 03:29 PM.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Mamoscott
    Yes, being unable to use a service that I'm paying for is a completely irrational reason to dislike it. Apparently, you live in a fantasy land where Xbox Live is completely devoid of problems and/or shortcomings.

    When Sega and MS finally get their shit together and fix things, then I'll drop it. Obviously, they haven't yet though.


    EDIT: For anyone playing on Live, it looks like the problem has just been fixed.
    And MS? I haven't had a problem like that with any Live game I've ever played. I'd hardly blame Microsoft for it.


    "I can only say that there is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do to see a plan adopted for the abolition of slavery." - Tommy Tallarico

  5. Is it just me, or is the crib music in this game fantastic? The soundtracks to VC's games have been pretty wretched over the years, but I'm actually enjoying this stuff.
    -Kyo

  6. Quote Originally Posted by StriderKyo
    Is it just me, or is the crib music in this game fantastic? The soundtracks to VC's games have been pretty wretched over the years, but I'm actually enjoying this stuff.
    I liked the stuff they threw in there as well--albeit there isn't a whole lot. What really does it for me is customizing the celebration music using the tracks from my xbox. This is the first football game I've gotten into in a long time. It's fun--don't player hate.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Mamoscott
    Yes, being unable to use a service that I'm paying for is a completely irrational reason to dislike it. Apparently, you live in a fantasy land where Xbox Live is completely devoid of problems and/or shortcomings.
    Alright man, you got us..Xbox sucks..I guess I'll go pay to play some Phantasy Star on my useless overpriced GameCube broadband adapter and then have it corrupt my save file. Then I guess I'll start a new character over, since I really don't have a choice to play anything else online with my GameCube...

    Man..We're having fun now...
    Time for a change

  8. Stay away from people who use the Falcons online (unless you know them). I swear all players who use the Falcons have just one type of strategy, run with Vick! I was playing one guy and I knocked Vick out of the game. After one play with Detmer he tried to put Vick back in but was injured still. Within 1 minute he threw a INT (which I returned) and I had three sacks on the next series. He then proceeded to quit. Loser. I can't stand any one who uses the Falcons like that.
    "Remember, not knowing how to cook is like not knowing how to fuck."
    Geek in the Desert

  9. Is scrambling with Vick that effective? He seems to get killed whenever I try it. I have a much easier time breaking off runs with Dunn using that team.
    -Kyo

  10. #170
    How else would you use the Falcons? They have no running game, and Vick is a lousy passer.

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