ESPN NFL 2005 to be released on July 20th

[StriderKyo]

I checked Gamerankings, and since 2002 (when 2k went multiplatform), the only game in the series that got a higher percentage than Madden was NFL 2k3 on Xbox. Sure, they're all pretty close, but that doesn't mean you're not wrong.

Depends on which version you check. It scored higher on Xbox, probably due to lack of online for Madden. Either way, you're looking at like a 2% swing, which I'd say is negligible regardless of who it's in favour of, and doesn't justify saying one has been significantly better than the other.

What Game Infomer and XBN? Madden isn't even out for another month, has anyone actually reviewed it yet?

Talking about previous versions. Only Gamepro and IGN have officially reviewed 2K5, with an aggregate of 97%. But if you want the opinion of somebody who counts, Operation Sports is practically foaming at the mouth over it, and are posting daily updates on every single feature.

Yeah, Madden, with it's realistic momentum is way more arcadey than ESPN, where you can make a 90 degree turn with practically no loss of speed. That makes an enormous difference, and not just in the running game.

Like I said, that was the series' one big weakness, and they've corrected it this year. I pointed out a few posts up that Madden's momentum physics were its strength, but everything else feels straight out of Tecmo Bowl. Not that that's at all a bad thing, just not as realism-oriented as 2K.

They're both damn fine football games, and which is better comes down to personal preference. It still annoys the shit out of me to see all the people claiming that Madden sucks merely because they're raving Sega fanboys.

Who said Madden sucks? I mean, John Madden sucks, but his game's just fine. Uglier, later and more expensive, but just fine

StriderKyo, I heard in that game you can trade three marginal Heat for Shaquille O' Neal.

So unrealistic. *shakes head*

Heh, I just tried it. "The Lakers have declined your trade". Apparently my Xbox is smarter than Mitch Kupchack.

[Hot Like Wasabi]

Any one going to start a TNL league or anything for ESPN 2k5? (I'll be getting the xbox vers)

[Saint of Killers]

Depends on which version you check. It scored higher on Xbox, probably due to lack of online for Madden. Either way, you're looking at like a 2% swing, which I'd say is negligible regardless of who it's in favour of, and doesn't justify saying one has been significantly better than the other.

Which was my point, with you saying ESPN/2k gets the same or better reviews every year.

Like I said, that was the series' one big weakness, and they've corrected it this year.

Didn't Sega claim they fixed it last year, too?

Who said Madden sucks?

It happens in practically every thread with either Madden or ESPN in the title. This thread has been pretty devoid of it, although plenty of people are talking up ESPN's "innovation" and decrying Madden as "stagnant," which is crazy. Yeah, that first person mode was real innovative, too bad it sucked balls. And wether you like it or not, Playmaker's the most innovative gameplay feature that's actually useful to be added to a football game in years.

[Videodrone]

Any one going to start a TNL league or anything for ESPN 2k5? (I'll be getting the xbox vers)

I'm getting the Xbox version and would love to start a league. Anybody who's interested PM me.

Hot Like Wasabi can I pencil you in?

[Timber]

I'm getting the Xbox version and would love to start a league. Anybody who's interested PM me.

PM sent. I'll have the Xbox version within a few days of it's release.

[dave is ok]

You can pencil me in, Brad too. I've been playing football video games for close to 10 years, IMHO ESPN pwns Madden.

[Videodrone]

Awesome. I'll setup an official league thread later after I'm done playing Full Spectrum on XBL.

[Videodrone]

Official TNL 2K5 XBL league thread

Join us!

[Six]

OK you GS/EB slaves, is "released on the 20th" mean that it *ships* on the 20th and I can't hold a copy until the 21st? Or can I go at open tomorrow and get my fix?

Also, anyone care to wager on the chances of Wal-Mart shelving their stock tonight?

[Roufuss]

OK you GS/EB slaves, is "released on the 20th" mean that it *ships* on the 20th and I can't hold a copy until the 21st? Or can I go at open tomorrow and get my fix?

Also, anyone care to wager on the chances of Wal-Mart shelving their stock tonight?

Ships on the 20th to be in stores the 21st.

And Wal-Mart, and all the times i've gone there at midnight - 2 am, have NEVER put the games out early. The DVD's, yes, but never ever the games.