Hitomi in DOAU!!

[PepsimanVsJoe]

I was just sitting at my PC, drinking a Heineken after a long day on the job and then I seen this thread. It seemed innocent. Something to pass the time.
But then it got ugly. Real ugly. Everyone calling each other fags and arguing about 2-d vs. 3-d fighting games. This is fine, but when I see comparing
MOTW to SVC Chaos, I really have to question that. Saying MOTW is like SVC is like saying DOA is just as deep as VF4. Have you even played the friggin game, sl1p? I kinda doubt it. Your rambling has no point. You certainly aren't a true fighting game fan. Hell, I bet your first fighter was a DOA game.
How pathetic

I was just playing it earlier and after fighters like SFA3, SF3:3s, GGXX#R...
Hell, after fighters like SFA2, VS, and even KoF 98, MOTW doesn't hold up...
I still don't see how MOTW has become this sort of legendary fighting game. The character balance is ridiculously bad(12 characters yet most people will stick to just Kevin or Jae Hoon if they want to win), the Just Defend system is idiotic(At least Capcom introduced risks with the SF3 parry system..You screw up a Just Defend? Oh then you don't gain a health bonus..boohoo).

The game still holds up decently enough, the gameplay is solid and it's decent enough entertainment..but there are certainly better fighters to play(2D and 3D alike). I would go ahead and say MOTW is SNK's best fighter IF they had included 6-8 more fighters(or at least balance out the 12 they had)..but whatever, KoF 97-98 will remain champ.

Oh and before I forget..SVC Chaos Vs MOTW? Sl1p is just trying to annoy you. MOTW isn't excellent but it certainly isn't trash, he just likes seeing the fanboys come out of the woodwork like starving rats on a piece of cheese...like MarkRyan/Yoshi in any Tecmo thread.

Seriously kids, lighten up..it's only a videogame forum. Every game is overrated, the game you like sucks ass, the game you hate is excellent, everyone else is right, you're always wrong, games aren't supposed to be fun, etc etc etc.

Just as an aside..regardless of what I say, If I ever happen to run into MarkRyan, Yoshi, or Joust Williams on the street..I'd probably offer to buy them a drink or something and we'd go hit up a few bars.

EDIT: Changeling you need to relax, I think you're lying about the heineken(It's alright..I'm drinking kool-aid right now too).

[Yoshi]

Oh and before I forget..SVC Chaos Vs MOTW? Sl1p is just trying to annoy you. MOTW isn't excellent but it certainly isn't trash, he just likes seeing the fanboys come out of the woodwork like starving rats on a piece of cheese...like MarkRyan/Yoshi in any Tecmo thread.

For the record. I love a lot of Tecmo's games, from Tecmo Bowl to the real Ninja Gaiden to Fatal Frame. It is Team Ninja, or specifically Itagaki, that makes my blood boil. That guy has given this industry a drop in the bucket compared to someone like Miyamoto, Suzuki, Kojima, Naka, Mikami, Yokoi, etc., unless his ego counts.

[dave is ok]

For the record. I love a lot of Tecmo's games, from Tecmo Bowl to the real Ninja Gaiden to Fatal Frame. It is Team Ninja, or specifically Itagaki, that makes my blood boil. That guy has given this industry a drop in the bucket compared to someone like Miyamoto, Suzuki, Kojima, Naka, Mikami, Yokoi, etc., unless his ego counts.

Dont player hate, congratulate.

Personally I have no problem with Itagaki, he puts out great product. Some people may think it's shameless how he thinks his status as developer merits some form of celebrity, but he is an artist, no matter what his medium may be. I think Dave Perry is the shameless one, he wants to be a celebrity for the sake of being a celebrity, so Shiny might get some respect or some shit. Hideo Kojima adds credits to the beginning of his games with is name all over them ( which as far as I know, Itagaki has never done ) . At any rate Miyamota, Kojima, Itagaki = artist. Dave Perry = douchebag

[Shadow Not Shade]

For the record. I love a lot of Tecmo's games, from Tecmo Bowl to the real Ninja Gaiden to Fatal Frame. It is Team Ninja, or specifically Itagaki, that makes my blood boil. That guy has given this industry a drop in the bucket compared to someone like Miyamoto, Suzuki, Kojima, Naka, Mikami, Yokoi, etc., unless his ego counts.

... I don't get it. What does it matter that Itagaki hasn't contributed as much to the game industry as someone like Miyamoto or Naka has? There are tons of game developers who haven't contributed to the industry as much as those two have; that's the entire point. If everybody were to achieve Miyamoto-level greatness, there'd be no reason to regard Miyamoto so highly.

Unless you're saying that his lack of significant contribution makes his ego that much more unbearable. Which I can understand, but I honestly think it's kind of silly to get miffed at the guy just because he takes pride in his work.

[Diff-chan]

Miyamoto, Suzuki, Naka, Mikami, Kojima = washed-up, has beens.

Yokoi = dead guy, no reason to lament the lack of discussion about him nowadays.

[Shadow Not Shade]

lol

I wouldn't necessarily say Miyamoto is... I mean, what flop games has he come out with lately? He's just sort of... distracted. :x

Naka I'll definitely agree to, tho. Sonic Team's gone so far downhill in the past few years it's heartbreaking.

[PKBMax]

Miyamoto, Suzuki, Naka, Mikami, Kojima = washed-up, has beens.

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse....

You've got to be joking.

[Wolffen]

DOAU is Dead or Alive 2 with online and a new character--the graphics are the same, the artwork the same, the fighting system the same.

I wasn't aware that DOA:XV used the same graphics engine as DOA2. I also wasn't aware that there was an African Safari level in DOA2. Or man-boarding in DOA2.



Damn, that looks like the same engine alright.

[Tain]

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse....

You've got to be joking.

With the possible exceptions of Suzuki and Kojima (and even they are a bit of a stretch), how is he wrong?

[MechDeus]

Damn, that looks like the same engine alright.

To be fair, the two shots are of vastly different quality. DOAU does look better then DOA2 since it's running on the DOA3 engine, but in direct comparision it also does better then the shots you posted. I could post two screenshots from the same game of different quality and achieve the same effect.