Hitomi in DOAU!!

[Yoshi]

You either drink too much, or not enough. I'm not sure which.

If you're talking to me, it must be not enough.

[MVS]

Not you.

[NeoZeedeater]

I was so pwned , huh. You got me on some history. Yeah whatever. You mention PC games that were good during the crash. We are talking console games, you fucking poof. I am talking about Japanese developers that created the modern platformer . a developer that practically started action/adventure. These men created worlds and stories, not just blips and bleeps that you "American" forefathers did.

Sorry, diffusionx is right here and your post above comes off as insulting to and ignorant of early American contributions to gaming.

You can bet your sweet as that if it wasn't for Nintendo's 8 bit system coming out in the mid 80's, that console gaming would not be here today. We would be playing games on the PC and PC only. You Amreican "forefathers" would have been content to let console gaming pass as another "fad"
So please come back at me again and so on and on and on and on...... Then you can just say "you're not worth my time.......pwned"

There is no proof that console gaming would not have become popular again in North America without Nintendo. Almost certainly some other company/companies would have taken their place. It happened in Europe. Computer gaming was dominant there in the mid '80s(like in North America) then Sega's Master System increased the popularity of console games. Similar situation, different company.

[Damian79]

There is no proof that console gaming would not have become popular again in North America without Nintendo. Almost certainly some other company/companies would have taken their place. It happened in Europe. Computer gaming was dominant there in the mid '80s(like in North America) then Sega's Master System increased the popularity of console games. Similar situation, different company.

You know this kind of thinking is universal to all things. You could apply it to everything. From Newtons physics to Galileo's astronomy to Christopher Columbus's exploration. Regardless, they were the first to get there and thus the reason to give them credit. Same reason, you have to give MS/bill gates the credit for Windows and Nintendo/miyamoto for Mario 3.

[NeoZeedeater]

Nintendo deserves a lot of credit for a lot of things. I don't deny that and I wouldn't want to. It just bothers me when people say shit like "We wouldn't be playing console games today without Nintendo" as if it's some sort of fact.

[Damian79]

Point taken.

[Changeling]

Nintendo deserves a lot of credit for a lot of things. I don't deny that and I wouldn't want to. It just bothers me when people say shit like "We wouldn't be playing console games today without Nintendo" as if it's some sort of fact.

We wouldn't be playing the same KIND of games that we did when Nintendo came out. I am not taking anything away from the master system, but in my opinion, the Master system couldn't hold a candle to the NES (except for Phantasy star)
I do think that it came out kind of wrong concerning American developers and such as well. I do acknowledge what they did, hell I had most of Atari's systems and that crappy Atari 800 "computer" keyboard with a cart slot. What I am saying , though is that there was alot of progression made by nintendo concerning gamestyles and ideas. They created genres that we still hold dear to us today.

[Damian79]

They created genres that we still hold dear to us today.

Most of those genres they didn't create, rather they made them popular with great implementation.

Great idea + shit implementation = forgotten wrok.

Graet idea + great implementation = inspiring work.

[Changeling]

Most of those genres they didn't create, rather they made them popular with great implementation.

Great idea + shit implementation = forgotten wrok.

Graet idea + great implementation = inspiring work.

True, very true.

[Anthony]

Suzuki still leads the VF franchise, that gets more than "washed up status".